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Old 10-17-2011, 06:44 AM
 
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The Windsor Tower was engulfed in flames and burned for 20 hours, but did not collapse. Both World Trade Centre towers collapsed within 90 minutes of being hit and engulfed in flames...

World Trade Center 7 was not hit by a plane and still collapsed...
I missed the part where it was struck by a jumbo jet flying at 400 mph and loaded with high temperature jet fuel.

Amazing how the pilots who flew the planes into the WTC hit exactly where the buildings started to crumble.

That's some fine flying!

Being stupid is a choice!
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Old 10-17-2011, 06:45 AM
 
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Tall_rep - Thanks for the rationality but they will still believe our evil government hired aliens from another galaxy to weaken and destroy the WTC.

My biggest question is why NYC did not empanel a Grand Jury to investigate this CRIME of mass murder. This was NOT a military attack by a foreign country but a CRIME.

Our response of attacking Iraq only served to validate bin Laden as a legitimate fighter against the “Great Satan”. The many was not a soldier but a Criminal and should have been dealt with as a criminal not an Islamic hero.
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Old 10-17-2011, 10:56 AM
 
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So which jet hit building SEVEN and caused its collapse?
No jet hit it, but WTC 1 did collapse on top of it; gouging out the entire North Side of the building (firefighters and vidoe shows the damage) and the debris that were on FIRE as WTC 1 collapses set fires to several floors in WTC 7

You may want to READ the freaking report. It explains clearly why WTC 7 fell.
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Old 10-17-2011, 10:57 AM
 
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My biggest question is why NYC did not empanel a Grand Jury to investigate this CRIME of mass murder. This was NOT a military attack by a foreign country but a CRIME.
It wasn't their job. This was a FEDERAL crime, not the city of New York.
Terrorist actions are prosecuted and dealt with by federal agencies.

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Old 10-17-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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No jet hit it, but WTC 1 did collapse on top of it; gouging out the entire North Side of the building (firefighters and vidoe shows the damage) and the debris that were on FIRE as WTC 1 collapses set fires to several floors in WTC 7

You may want to READ the freaking report. It explains clearly why WTC 7 fell.
Why do I have a feeling you believe in man-made global warming because the government says it's real?
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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It was explained that the elevators in the twin towers were in the middle of the building so the outside walls were weakened with the fire and the support beams buckled.
Most office buildings have their elevators in the middle of the building so they can maximize the rental square foot rate. But you do have a point about the structure. The WTC was built with their structural support on the OUTSIDE of the building, while almost every other skyrise has their structural support on the inside. If you break the outside structure support, its almost a gurantee to collapse.

I cant believe we have kooks out there who deny engineering facts like the OP.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:47 AM
 
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Why do I have a feeling you believe in man-made global warming because the government says it's real?
I don't believe in Global Warming (man made).

however, over 1000 scientists (many of them who weren't employed by the government) and several independent investigations (beyond the two NIST and FEMA reports) prove that the cause of the collapse of the WTC towers was due to the plane crash and the subsequent several football-field sized fires that were unfought, caused the collapse.

That is putting very simply, but the NIST reports explain in detail that even a lay person could understand.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:50 AM
 
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I cant believe we have kooks out there who deny engineering facts like the OP.

they rather believe that nearly 100,000 people (yes it would have to take at least that many) from various agencies, carried out the wiring of three ( 2 110 story towers, 1 47 story tower... LARGER than any known demolition in existence), the wiring of the Pentagon and taking bulldozers to the Pennsylvania field to gouge out a 14 foot by 80 foot hole in the ground.

And all of that would have to have been done in less than a week's time (1 day for the WTC towers since the towers were open on that weekend before for the Party that was held there).


Than rather believe that 19 hijackers took four planes and crashed them into the buildings, field and the pentagon.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:00 PM
 
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they rather believe that nearly 100,000 people (yes it would have to take at least that many) from various agencies, carried out the wiring of three ( 2 110 story towers, 1 47 story tower... LARGER than any known demolition in existence), the wiring of the Pentagon and taking bulldozers to the Pennsylvania field to gouge out a 14 foot by 80 foot hole in the ground.

And all of that would have to have been done in less than a week's time (1 day for the WTC towers since the towers were open on that weekend before for the Party that was held there).


Than rather believe that 19 hijackers took four planes and crashed them into the buildings, field and the pentagon.
And it's interesting how when something like this happens it's wayyyyy too sophisticated for terrorists to have done it.....but when we stop a terrorist attack they point out that it had to have been a government "false flag" because terrorist attacks are a lot more sophisticated that that.

Even when they got bin-laden they claimed we didn't really get him.

When the Seal team crashed it was suddenly an intentional govt. act.

Pretty much everything bad that happens was actually done by our own government to us as part of a sinister plot. When something good happens, it didn't REALLY happen but is part of a sinister government plot.
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:04 PM
 
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And it's interesting how when something like this happens it's wayyyyy too sophisticated for terrorists to have done it.....but when we stop a terrorist attack they point out that it had to have been a government "false flag" because terrorist attacks are a lot more sophisticated that that.

Even when they got bin-laden they claimed we didn't really get him.

When the Seal team crashed it was suddenly an intentional govt. act.

Pretty much everything bad that happens was actually done by our own government to us as part of a sinister plot. When something good happens, it didn't REALLY happen but is part of a sinister government plot.
Yeah, isn't it a b*tch when your Government has no credibility?
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