The Madrid Windsor Tower Fire - It burned for 20 hours and didn't collapse like the World Trade Center Towers did... (weapon, compared)
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The main WTC towers used a tube-frame construction with load bearing outer walls and few interior columns - big open floor plans are preferred by large tenants. The floors just pancaked down when one of the outer walls buckled. The Madrid building had a non-load bearing curtain outer wall and an interior load bearing core and columns. The Madrid building also wasn't soaked with 15-20,000 gallons of jet fuel.
The photo he posted shows beams that were torched by crews AFTER the buildings came down in order to make it safe for rescue teams. Am I the only person who remembers watching live shots that night of sparks and slag flying everywhere from those torches?
The photograph below demonstrates that the WTC beams were not cut by welders.
Because of fuel and time constraints welders would have used a cutting torch to cut the shortest distance possible - straight across the beams. Also, cutting torches cut by forced oxidation, therefore the large amount of once liquid metal congealed on the beam would not be present.
The main WTC towers used a tube-frame construction with load bearing outer walls and few interior columns - big open floor plans are preferred by large tenants. The floors just pancaked down when one of the outer walls buckled. The Madrid building had a non-load bearing curtain outer wall and an interior load bearing core and columns. The Madrid building also wasn't soaked with 15-20,000 gallons of jet fuel.
Lamp fuel.
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LOL, you gotta love how neatly all the debris is behind the beams. There's your conspiracy. How did they manage that?
The first photo was taken obviously the next day... See all the debris?... The rest of the photos were taken within the next few days and weeks... Less debris after some cleanup...
The column beams are always cut in preparation for controlled demolition...
yes, this is true, but in order to cut the beams, they have to be openly accessible considering the amount of equipment needed to cut the beams safely.
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People who claim that 9/11 was an inside job and was a controlled demolition are just as insane as people who still believe that Obama was born in Kenya.
well said.
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I know New York has a lot of rats, but what I didn't know was that it had a army of rats with acetylene torches scurrying behind all the wall coverings and sheet rock cutting through the steel beams supporting the structure.
Of course I never realized that there was another set of gremlins running around for weeks weakening supporting structures laying in tons of explosives and miles of wiring for the detonation of the towers. I still don't understand how they got all the debris out with all those workers and cops watching.
Amazing job those little critters did.
not to mention the fact that it all had to be done while the building was occupied and operating.
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I dunno.
Maybe they value their lives.
really? you think that they couldnt find people to protect them if they came forward? get real.
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That makes even more sense, seems they were bit straight if they had snapped at connection.
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Usually not torch either when you see them cutting big steel like that. They use a special welding rig and welding rod that is hollow, it has compressed air shooting through it blowing away the puddle of molten metal.
yep, it is actually called a plasma cutter.
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Originally Posted by HC475
The photograph below demonstrates that the WTC beams were not cut by welders.
Because of fuel and time constraints welders would have used a cutting torch to cut the shortest distance possible - straight across the beams. Also, cutting torches cut by forced oxidation, therefore the large amount of once liquid metal congealed on the beam would not be present.
when metal is cut with a plasma cutter, it blows the molten metal out in a large fan of what seem to be sparks, but are actually bits of molten metal solidifying while flying through the air. thus you will not find a large pool of solid metal after cutting with a plasma cutter.
Because of fuel and time constraints welders would have used a cutting torch to cut the shortest distance possible - straight across the beams. Also, cutting torches cut by forced oxidation, therefore the large amount of once liquid metal congealed on the beam would not be present.
They generally don't use torches for cutting big steel like that, they use a special welding rig and rod as I explained above. It's much faster by many magnitudes but makes a mess. That's why you'll see big plumes of molten steel flying, the air hits the puddle of steel and it will go all over the place. The image is exactly what it would like using this method.
They generally don't use torches for cutting big steel like that, they use a special welding rig and rod as I explained above. It's much faster by many magnitudes but makes a mess. That's why you'll see big plumes of molten steel flying, the air hits the puddle of steel and it will go all over the place. The image is exactly what it would like using this method.
Wrong... Thae partially collapsed portion of the Windsor Tower were not part of the Infrastructure...
The beams in the World Trade Center were cut...
The 9-11 conspiratists are weak minded people.....
And eager to follow.
Very easy to hypnotize I would bet....
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