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Not only did they NOT miss the mark, they in fact put the whole thing right in the 10 ring since it was their every intention to end once and for all the idea of state sovereignty!
What? What??? Not quite, ovcatto!
The Constitution gave only certain powers to the Federal government, and what was not specifically given was left to the states. This is quite clear.
We have a Federal government right now that is way overstepping it's authority. That is what this recent election was all about.
Freedom for whom? Freedom for the hustler, or freedom for The People? Or does this sound too communist Chinese for you? Capitalism does not mean selling your soul or the People or your nation down the road for a buck. What I see many times is large capitalistic, monopolistic businesses bordering on treason.
That is a pretty far reaching statement. Can you give some specific examples and explain why it is treason?
Would you rather live under communism or socialism? If you say yes, I don't think you know what it is, and how it has a history of oppression.
There is at least on person I know on this Forum that escaped from communism.
For you conservatives that like to quote Jefferson:
“The selfish spirit of commerce… knows no country, and feels no passion or principle but that of gain.” –Thomas Jefferson to Larkin Smith, 1809. ME 12:272
“Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which they draw their gains.” –Thomas Jefferson to Horatio G. Spafford, 1814. ME 14:119
"I hope we shall... crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." --Thomas Jefferson to George Logan, 1816. FE 10:69
Where are these from, some revisionist history Website? Care to post them in their context and tell us where they can be found in some original source?
These seem to be in conflict with what Jefferson penned in other historic documents... like the Declaration of Independece for example. I think the man loved the idea of freedom, and liberty, which would have meant was also a proponent of men being free to reap the profits of their labor. No one is truly free, if they are not free to engage in business for personal gain.
I think someone has sold you a bill of goods. You need to stay away from ThinkProgress and those other Soros funded socialist organizations.
That is a pretty far reaching statement. Can you give some specific examples and explain why it is treason?
Would you rather live under communism or socialism? If you say yes, I don't think you know what it is, and how it has a history of oppression.
There is at least on person I know on this Forum that escaped from communism.
Many Americans freely participate in organizations that owe their existwnce to socialist or communistic principles rather than rugged individualism. Americans cling to the myth of the Horatio Alger or Buck skinned frontiersman which for most of us is as far removed from our lives as the surface of the Moon. If America tomorow became a Peoples Democratic Republic the change in our lives would be negliable. Most of us work for corporations that are managed by a handful of senior executives who set goals, policy and decide compensation. How many CEOs ask the staff for input into these decisions or put corporate decisions up to a vote by the staff? The US military is also another organization that is centrally organized and planned. Generals do not poll the elisted personnel before they cut orders. They give orders and you of lower rank disobey under the penalty of law called the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Another area is Academia which is run by a handful of senior academics who decide things like tenure or the content of courses. Most of our medicine and science is run this way as well. In Physics Chemistry, Earth Sciences, Biology etc and at the NIH small groups of distinguished scientists or Doctors (distinguished= senior and well regarded aka The Grey Eminences) meet in small committees called Study Groups or Review Committees to make decisions about research needs or directions and what gets funds and what doesn't. Do you think the Catholic Church is a democracy either? Do you think you can differ from the Pope's teachings, have your own slant on the Bible and continue to receive Communion?
Pete Seeger once notied that Russians liked a song of his called "Little Boxes" and said a Russian friend of his said that "Communism or Capitalism, it makes no difference every thing comes out looking square"."Little Boxes, little boxes made of tiki-taky Little boxes, little boxes and they all look just the same."
I'l side with the Buck Skinned thank you very much. Money is not and never has been much of a hobby for me, but guns are and as the dollar dips my guns are worth more. The other day viewing used guns in a store i saw one I have costing 5 times more than I paid for mine.
The gun isn't really worth more or as much as i saw that one listed for, but the dollar is just down.
I hope they put barry on one soon so i can use it to wipe with. I live in desperate fear he will end up on brown welfare money and I just won't do that.
Unfortunatly the USA has spent more than a welfare mother with a free credit card to walmart, and the day to pay up is in order. The Feds ruined the value of a buck and now they are going to live long enough to find out what that means.
The new 6 billion they want to print would be best printed on TP, because that is all it will be worth.
The Constitution gave only certain powers to the Federal government, and what was not specifically given was left to the states. This is quite clear.
You have it backwards. The Constitution establishes the supremacy of the national government and grants it broad powers, amongst which are the ability to tax and spend, to enter in to treaties and to compel states to abide by the those laws enacted by the national government. What the Constitution does is to enumerate those broad powers and relegate those remaining powers to the states and the people.
See article
Article VI, Section 1, Clause 2.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
As for the sovereignty of the states, I find it strange how one can consider a state to be "sovereign" when states must abide by the laws of the land enacted by a national, not state government (with some restrictions), or how a state can be considered, in this context, by any definition of the word sovereign i.e.,
"supreme and independent power or authority in government as possessed or claimed by a state or community...rightful status, independence, or prerogative."
Article I - The Legislative Branch, Section 10 - Powers prohibited of States
No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress.
No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.
You have it backwards. The Constitution establishes the supremacy of the national government and grants it broad powers, amongst which are the ability to tax and spend, to enter in to treaties and to compel states to abide by the those laws enacted by the national government. What the Constitution does is to enumerate those broad powers and relegate those remaining powers to the states and the people.
See article
Article VI, Section 1, Clause 2.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
As for the sovereignty of the states, I find it strange how one can consider a state to be "sovereign" when states must abide by the laws of the land enacted by a national, not state government (with some restrictions), or how a state can be considered, in this context, by any definition of the word sovereign i.e.,
"supreme and independent power or authority in government as possessed or claimed by a state or community...rightful status, independence, or prerogative."
Article I - The Legislative Branch, Section 10 - Powers prohibited of States
[indent][indent]No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
When is the Supreme Court going to enforce the gold and silver coin thingy?
Has anyone noticed that many of the threads bashing the "me first, gimmie gimmie" corps are the same one's asking for free hand outs?
Just look around this board and you'll see the same people that corp bash are the same people who are asking for unlimited unemployment bennies and free health care regardless of who it costs. Hmmm something about kettles and calling them black comes to mind.
What is there to enforce? Have states enacted any other instrument for the the tender of payment of debts???
Yeah. Here in Montana we're forced to accept Federal Reserve Notes as tender in payment of debts.
This has got to stop!
And, right now!
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