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CNBC politically is almost the opposite of MSNBC.
It's basically "Fox News for smart people".
This seems to be very true. Alaska is a petrosocialist state on an almost Venezuelan level.
As for West Virginia: the late Robert Byrd made sure that WV got more than its share of federal money.
CNBC politically is almost the opposite of MSNBC.
It's basically "Fox News for smart people".
This seems to be very true. Alaska is a petrosocialist state on an almost Venezuelan level.
As for West Virginia: the late Robert Byrd made sure that WV got more than its share of federal money.
Yep I'm sure you'll run into far more regulations and taxes in Alabama then you will in California.
The fact that some people are dismissing it simply because it's on CNBC's website just shows how brainwashed and paranoid they are. If the same exact study was published on the Fox News website, then they'd believe it, I guess.
Numbers are numbers, people. Just because a news story doesn't compliment your view of the world doesn't mean that it's false. Grow up.
It's ironic that the former governor of Alaska is one of the most vocal critics of socialism, yet her state is ranked as the second most socialist state in America.
Also interesting that California - the state that is probably the most vilified among free-market conservatives - doesn't even make the top 10.
The full list:
1. West Virginia
2. Alaska
3. Alabama
4. Vermont
5. New Mexico
6. Mississippi
7. Wyoming
8. Arkansas
9. Hawaii
10. Rhode Island
beleive what you want and get your information wherever. You would have trouble getting most to agree with you.
Now, wait a minute! What are they trying to pull here and why?
First, they offer a definition of Socialism (which actually the purest form of it, Communism):
"In other words, a purely socialist state is one in which the state is responsible for 100% of economic output and spends all of it on social programs."
Then, they make their determination as to whether or not a state is "socialist" by doing this:
"...we measured total expenditures as a proportion of total economic output to compare the size of the public sector in each state."
Did you catch that little sleight of hand?
Yes - yours.
1. They gave a definition of a "purely socialist state."
2. Then they stated "Since no part of the U.S. can be considered purely socialist, ..." showing that the definition of a "purely socialist state" would have to be modified to apply to individual states. I'm sure you saw it - it was the missing part of your second quote.
The full quote:
"Since no part of the U.S. can be considered purely socialist, we measured total expenditures as a proportion of total economic output to compare the size of the public sector in each state."
The title of the article isn't "Completely socialist states in America" - it's "The most socialist states in America", an accurate title and as far as I can tell, an accurate list.
Their definition of a socialist state differs from mine. Socialism to me means gun banning, atheism, high taxes, red tape, bureucrats, disgusting stuff taught in schools, that's what socialism means to me, and there's lots more of that in Massachusetts, California, Michigan, and New Jersy than there is in Arkansas, Alabama, or Mississippi. But if yall want say they're socialist then fine, this just proves those news statistics really are fixed you can make them say whatever you want. Since what yall are implying is that the most Conservative states are the most "socialist" in your opinion should we switch colors as well red would look better on yall after all it is yall's traditional color.
Their definition of a socialist state differs from mine. Socialism to me means gun banning, atheism, high taxes, red tape, bureucrats, disgusting stuff taught in schools, that's what socialism means to me, and there's lots more of that in Massachusetts, California, Michigan, and New Jersy than there is in Arkansas, Alabama, or Mississippi. .
Gun banning and atheism have nothing to do with socialism.
Their definition of a socialist state differs from mine. Socialism to me means gun banning, atheism, high taxes, red tape, bureucrats, disgusting stuff taught in schools, that's what socialism means to me
And your statement is a great example of how a lot of people who scream about socialism don't even know the meaning of the word.
Since what yall are implying is that the most Conservative states are the most "socialist" in your opinion should we switch colors as well red would look better on yall after all it is yall's traditional color.
No. Rhode Island and Vermont were on the list of the most socialist states too, and I don't know anyone who thinks of those states as conservative.
1. They gave a definition of a "purely socialist state."
2. Then they stated "Since no part of the U.S. can be considered purely socialist, ..." showing that the definition of a "purely socialist state" would have to be modified to apply to individual states. I'm sure you saw it - it was the missing part of your second quote.
The full quote:
"Since no part of the U.S. can be considered purely socialist, we measured total expenditures as a proportion of total economic output to compare the size of the public sector in each state."
The title of the article isn't "Completely socialist states in America" - it's "The most socialist states in America", an accurate title and as far as I can tell, an accurate list.
But, for their final analysis, they make no effort to distinguish between those parts of the economic output which are government controlled and those which are not. They simply lump them together and compare total spending with the total amount, as if all economic output is presumed to be government directed.
If they wanted to be honest about it within the frame they created, they would only compare total spending to the minute amount of the economy which is controlled by the government.
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