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Old 12-23-2010, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Okeedokee, your shackels are waiting at the courthouse. Bidding starts at noon.
We're all shackled, brother. Every one of us. Unfortunately, we're not treated as if we're valuable assets by our masters, I mean, the government.
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Old 12-23-2010, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Well, there's always Canada, border is still open. Buh Bye.
Why would anyone with any sense ever leave the place they were born?
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Old 12-24-2010, 12:51 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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the war had little to do with slavery.
states rights, the banking act and westward expansion had far more impact.. While the freeing of the blacks was a result it wasn't because the North wasn't racist... they simply didn't find slavery profitable. It was more beneficial financially to agricultural interests which were found more in the South.
Congress was passing many laws that did not favor the South but more of the northern interests...
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Old 12-26-2010, 04:05 PM
 
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the war had little to do with slavery.
states rights, the banking act and westward expansion had far more impact.. While the freeing of the blacks was a result it wasn't because the North wasn't racist... they simply didn't find slavery profitable. It was more beneficial financially to agricultural interests which were found more in the South.
Congress was passing many laws that did not favor the South but more of the northern interests...
If slavery had so little to do with it, then why were elite Southerners so scared, firmly believing that he would get rid of slavery? If it had very little to do with slavery, then why did elite southern leaders and plantation owners stand up and openly admit that the reason they wanted to secede was to keep and expand slavery? And by the way, I have links all over this thread about the Articles of Secession. You should read them. If it had nothing to do with slavery, then why were there "compromises" brought forward to allow slavery under "certain conditions"? Why did Lincoln sign the Emancipation Proclamation?Well, I know it was to keep the British from getting involved, but why would he free slaves(in the rebelling territories) to keep the British out of it?
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Old 12-26-2010, 04:06 PM
 
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Why would anyone with any sense ever leave the place they were born?
I left the city I was born in. Millions of immigrants left the nations they were born in, and came here to make their lives better.
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Old 12-26-2010, 04:07 PM
 
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No, he's going for the gut reaction.
What do you think his gut reaction is?
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Old 12-26-2010, 04:09 PM
 
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We're all shackled, brother. Every one of us. Unfortunately, we're not treated as if we're valuable assets by our masters, I mean, the government.
I don't get you. First, you say that slavery is no different than the military and you try to make slavery out to be a good thing. Then you say we are all slaves to the government, as if it is a bad thing. It doesn't add up.
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Old 12-26-2010, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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If we're treated as valuable assets, and fed, and quartered (and provided with funds for clothing every year and free medical care, though I don't need the latter two), then it is acceptable. It is only bad if we are NOT treated as valuable, and not fed or quartered.
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Old 12-26-2010, 05:05 PM
 
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If we're treated as valuable assets, and fed, and quartered (and provided with funds for clothing every year and free medical care, though I don't need the latter two), then it is acceptable. It is only bad if we are NOT treated as valuable, and not fed or quartered.
So you think slavery in the USA was a good thing for Blacks or anyone for that matter??

Furthermore, you being a veteran, you are in an organization that is fighting for the freedoms of this nation. To make slavery sound like it isn't a bad thing sounds hypocritical to me.
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Old 12-26-2010, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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I left the city I was born in. Millions of immigrants left the nations they were born in, and came here to make their lives better.

I don't like immigrants--they should have stayed where they were born.
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