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Old 01-03-2011, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Upstate SC
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An excerpt from a letter to the editor of the Spartanburg, SC newspaper. Yesterday.

"The Southern people did not deserve to be treated as horribly as they were, but because of a greedy, corrupt and fanatical segment up North and the influence it had on Washington, we went through a terrible war. Sherman's March was a holocaust against the South. I do celebrate and am proud of my Southern heritage, culture and the brave Southerners who fought against this invasion from the North."

Now that's clueless, and that's par for the course down here. So many of them want to justify slavery, and some are still fighting the war.
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:00 PM
 
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An excerpt from a letter to the editor of the Spartanburg, SC newspaper. Yesterday.

"The Southern people did not deserve to be treated as horribly as they were, but because of a greedy, corrupt and fanatical segment up North and the influence it had on Washington, we went through a terrible war. Sherman's March was a holocaust against the South. I do celebrate and am proud of my Southern heritage, culture and the brave Southerners who fought against this invasion from the North."

Now that's clueless, and that's par for the course down here. So many of them want to justify slavery, and some are still fighting the war.
Yea, that Sherman really knew how to throw a good barbeque, didn't he? LMAO! Wish i could've been there.
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Do you believe that the richest Americans are purposely keeping you poor?

I believe that economic policies have lead to wealth pool to the richest Americans, but to say that it was done on purpose to keep you down is a little irrational.

The poverty cycle has been going on forever all over the world. When you're poor its harder to get an education, its harder for you to invest when you have little to nothing to invest. But I've never once seen a law that said "If you are only making 10 dollars an hour, you can never earn more than 15 dollars an hour in your lifetime".
No. I have no problem with where I'm at financially. My reference was to those people who actually hold power and authority over others, which rankles me. No one deserves to hold authority over any other person.
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:13 PM
 
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And so I say, I'd rather be a Civil War era slave, and be treated as an asset, treated with respect, valued for my contribution.
Sure you would.
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Why would I lie about it?

Like I said, at least I'd be valued and respected.
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:21 PM
 
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Why would I lie about it?

Like I said, at least I'd be valued and respected.

On a honest level I wish there were other ways that slavery could have ended and shermans response was brutal.


but certainly being from the south, you could see that the plantation elite treated the slaves with the type of barbarity that really isn't that far away from nazism. Certainly the slaves weren't treated well if soo many escaped from the south by the underground railroad in the 1850;s.
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:24 PM
 
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An excerpt from a letter to the editor of the Spartanburg, SC newspaper. Yesterday.

"The Southern people did not deserve to be treated as horribly as they were, but because of a greedy, corrupt and fanatical segment up North and the influence it had on Washington, we went through a terrible war. Sherman's March was a holocaust against the South. I do celebrate and am proud of my Southern heritage, culture and the brave Southerners who fought against this invasion from the North."

Now that's clueless, and that's par for the course down here. So many of them want to justify slavery, and some are still fighting the war.
The Southerners should stop complaining and begin the project to re-create the Confederacy. This time the North should say 'good riddance'.
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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On a honest level I wish there were other ways that slavery could have ended and shermans response was brutal.


but certainly being from the south, you could see that the plantation elite treated the slaves with the type of barbarity that really isn't that far away from nazism. Certainly the slaves weren't treated well if soo many escaped from the south by the underground railroad in the 1850;s.
I disagree.

Plenty of people will leave even when treated well. It's part of some human's nature to never be satisfied with what they have, and it's a failing of those humans.
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:32 PM
 
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I disagree.

Plenty of people will leave even when treated well. It's part of some human's nature to never be satisfied with what they have, and it's a failing of those humans.
"Eugene Genovese, in his comprehensive study of slavery, Roll, Jordan, Roll, sees a record of "simultaneous accommodation and resistance to slavery." The resistance included stealing property, sabotage and slowness, killing overseers and masters, burning down plantation buildings, running away. Even the accommodation "breathed a critical spirit and disguised subversive actions." Most of this resistance, Genovese stresses, fell short of organized insurrection, but its significance for masters and slaves was enormous.

Running away was much more realistic than armed insurrection. During the 1850s about a thousand slaves a year escaped into the North, Canada, and Mexico. Thousands ran away for short periods. And this despite the terror facing the runaway. The dogs used in tracking fugitives "bit, tore, mutilated, and if not pulled off in time, killed their prey," Genovese says." - A peoples history of the United States - Howard Zinn
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Old 01-03-2011, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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"Eugene Genovese, in his comprehensive study of slavery, Roll, Jordan, Roll, sees a record of "simultaneous accommodation and resistance to slavery." The resistance included stealing property, sabotage and slowness, killing overseers and masters, burning down plantation buildings, running away. Even the accommodation "breathed a critical spirit and disguised subversive actions." Most of this resistance, Genovese stresses, fell short of organized insurrection, but its significance for masters and slaves was enormous.

Running away was much more realistic than armed insurrection. During the 1850s about a thousand slaves a year escaped into the North, Canada, and Mexico. Thousands ran away for short periods. And this despite the terror facing the runaway. The dogs used in tracking fugitives "bit, tore, mutilated, and if not pulled off in time, killed their prey," Genovese says." - A peoples history of the United States - Howard Zinn
And in Vietnam, some soldiers fragged their superiors, and some avoided the draft altogether. (I think I recall that Duane Allman shot himself, or had someone else shoot him, in the foot to avoid serving).

Does that mean that they were "mistreated"?
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