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Old 12-04-2010, 09:32 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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it won't work well in america because of he culture. people like to ride in cars.

also, high speed rail doesn't seem to make much sense in america as it's not very dense in population and there is a lot of space.
It could work , ppl are starting to dump cars for Transit.....HSR works best in the Northeast , Midwest , Northwest and Cali....it would fail in the South and Texas.
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:35 PM
 
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Thats an old article and not HSR by NE standards.....
The artical is from 2010, after the financial grants were awarded for the CURRENT construction projects..

Obama administration announced the winners of $8 billion in grants for rail-building projects Thursday.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...ruction-begins

That leg, expected to be completed by the end of this year, will eventually tie in to Chicago. Officials said it will cut the travel time between St. Louis and Chicago by 90 minutes, to less than four hours, with trains traveling at 110 mph — the Federal Railroad Administration's qualifying threshold for high-speed rail.

Note, speed is STILL the same in September.. Did you expect a big technological change from Jan to September of this year?

btw, we even had to dumb down the definition of high speed rail because
http://www.wordiq.com/definition/High-speed_rail
High-speed rail is public transport by rail with a possible speed above 200 km/h (125 miles per hour).

But the Federal Railraod Administration is trying to pass off 110 mph as "high speed" even though its not.

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Old 12-04-2010, 09:37 PM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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The artical is from 2010, after the financial grants were awarded for the CURRENT construction projects..

Obama administration announced the winners of $8 billion in grants for rail-building projects Thursday.
I thought we already did that back in January....
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:42 PM
 
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I thought we already did that back in January....
The projects wre awarded in January but they havent yet begun construction. There was a big deal made about a month ago when they announced the trains would be build here in the USA, (even though its a foreign owned corporation).. Somewhere around here there is a forum on it..
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Old 12-04-2010, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I thought we already did that back in January....
As I posted earlier..we are bogged down in layers of bureaucracy.
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Old 12-04-2010, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I would like to thank everyone that posted in this thread for their very informative responses to my questions. I learned something.
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Old 12-04-2010, 10:58 PM
 
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More details here.

CRH380 test for new speed record live - SkyscraperCity



It's a nice looking train fo sure.
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Old 12-05-2010, 12:34 AM
 
Location: Fairfax
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Shanghai and Beijing are huge cities and there will be much demand for this. I would say there are only 3 routes in the US that would be practical for ultra-fast (hopefully maglev) rail.

1. NYC-Washington DC. Forget Baltimore. IMO there is only enough demand for this route with perhaps a stop in Philly.

2. NYC-Chicago. The distance is 700+ miles which is close to the 600+ miles separating Shanghai and Beijing. This could be a very busy route. A train going 250 MPH could get there in around 3 hours. This would be a wonderful alternative to getting groped by the TSA and when you factor in all the time spent in airports and the fact that they are never close to your actual destination, I believe this would be a major competitor for the airlines.

3. LA-SF. Same deal.

Massive government investment in the infrastructure could be just the thing to get out of our economic malaise. This would also be a safer bet than WW3.
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Old 12-05-2010, 07:59 AM
 
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it won't work well in america because of he culture. people like to ride in cars.

also, high speed rail doesn't seem to make much sense in america as it's not very dense in population and there is a lot of space.
Even in Europe, HSR is not really an alternative to the car. Rather, it is an alternative to air traffic in the 200 - 600 mile range.
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Old 12-05-2010, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Not as vulnerable as someone standing at the end of a runway just outside the fence with a home-made rocket that'll take down any passenger plane.

Can you imagine the cost to defend against that?

$Trillions annually.
You wouldn't even need a rocket for a train. There would be thousands of miles of track to guard and all some Jihadi would have to do would be to put a car or boulder on the tracks and watch what happens when a large object traveling 200 mph derails.
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