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What divides the rich and the poor? DESIRE, ambition, RESOURCEFULNESS, knowledge, HARD WORK
and the willingness to do whatever it takes to stay rich.
I try to help as much as possible, you know give back, but sometimes its difficult when you see a family of adults, nobody works, they get some type of disability check for mental issues, go to the food bank to get food. They do nothing all day long, do drugs or families on food stamps that have parties every weekend. Block is full of men sitting on the porch, sweeping leaves, drinking 40 ounces, staring. These are our poor people. They don't vote, didn't answer their door for the census. These issues are not important to them. They like where they are. That is what separates rich from the poor. The rich want to keep what they have and want more and the poor don't want anything. How can you have generations upon generation of poor people where maybe one will graduate from HS and/or college but the dynamics of their family stay the same?
I know the answer, but I also know some that don't or believe something different. Why is the financial situation, the net worth of an individual something that divides us ? Who is more responsible for that divisiveness the Rich or the Poor ? I personally cannot stand to hear it or see it................what is the biggest reason for it?
Mindset. Period.
There are plenty of people down on their luck that are working their tail off to dig out of their hole, and they will be successful over time.
Then there are also plenty of poor folk that just think it's someone else's fault and that folks should be responsible for helping them out. Those people's situations will NEVER change. It's why lottery winners go broke so quickly.
If you don't have a work ethic and a respect for money, you're incapable of saving and protecting your future.
There are plenty of people down on their luck that are working their tail off to dig out of their hole, and they will be successful over time.
Then there are also plenty of poor folk that just think it's someone else's fault and that folks should be responsible for helping them out. Those people's situations will NEVER change. It's why lottery winners go broke so quickly.
If you don't have a work ethic and a respect for money, you're incapable of saving and protecting your future.
Uh-huh. Except about 40% of the people who live in poverty are children and about 25% are elderly.
At what age should they be working their tail off to dig out of their hole? 14? 8? 4? Maybe we need more 90 year old Walmart greeters?
I don't have a lot of patience for people who will not work. I have all the sympathy in the world for poor children, impoverished elderly, and the working poor-- who are the majority.
I know it's fun for some to demonize the poor and propagate the false "welfare-queen" myth. Keep in mind when you paint the poor with a broad brush, and refuse to acknowledge the very real social problems that lead to poverty, instead of being part of the solution, you contribute to the very attitude in this country that catalyzes the cycle of poverty.
Uh-huh. Except about 40% of the people who live in poverty are children and about 25% are elderly.
At what age should they be working their tail off to dig out of their hole? 14? 8? 4? Maybe we need more 90 year old Walmart greeters?
I don't have a lot of patience for people who will not work. I have all the sympathy in the world for poor children, impoverished elderly, and the working poor-- who are the majority.
I know it's fun for some to demonize the poor and propagate the false "welfare-queen" myth. Keep in mind when you paint the poor with a broad brush, and refuse to acknowledge the very real social problems that lead to poverty, instead of being part of the solution, you contribute to the very attitude in this country that catalyzes the cycle of poverty.
Have some compassion.
I love when people know the "percentages" of everything when they have an argument.
While it sucks for the kids, their parents have a responsibility for their family and that's on them. We've got every opportunity to become successful in this country (for the time being).
Wealth and success is a mindset.
"Fixing" the problem doesn't involve handouts. It involves getting people to take responsibility for themselves.
Most wealthy and successful people give back more than you can comprehend. It's easy to demonize someone with more money than you, but the truth is that charities are kept afloat by successful people.
I love when people know the "percentages" of everything when they have an argument.
While it sucks for the kids, their parents have a responsibility for their family and that's on them. We've got every opportunity to become successful in this country (for the time being).
Wealth and success is a mindset.
"Fixing" the problem doesn't involve handouts. It involves getting people to take responsibility for themselves.
Most wealthy and successful people give back more than you can comprehend. It's easy to demonize someone with more money than you, but the truth is that charities are kept afloat by successful people.
That's a good answer. "Sorry your poor kid... It sucks!"
Your response makes it appear as if you have no solutions or the desire to do anything about poverty. In fact, it appears that you find the poor a convenient way to think yourself superior due to your "mindset" and "wealth."
In fact, you make assumptions that I am somehow envious of wealth, while you have no idea, in fact, my exposure to wealth, or if, in fact I am wealthy myself.
I'd like you to quote where you believe, I demonized anyone. I simply cautioned against a pattern of thought that encourages the continued cycle of poverty.
And, of course it's people who HAVE money who give to charities. Do you think this is news? Bulletin: Most in the poor and middle class don't have extra funds to give to charity. I'm not sure why you feel this argument suports your position.
Regarding knowing the percentages. Yes, I do. It's called knowing what your talking about and making an argument based of fact instead of simply spouting poisonous political dogma.
That's a good answer. "Sorry your poor kid... It sucks!"
Your response makes it appear as if you have no solutions or the desire to do anything about poverty. In fact, it appears that you find the poor a convenient way to think yourself superior due to your "mindset" and "wealth."
In fact, you make assumptions that I am somehow envious of wealth, while you have no idea, in fact, my exposure to wealth, or if, in fact I am wealthy myself.
I'd like you to quote where you believe, I demonized anyone. I simply cautioned against a pattern of thought that encourages the continued cycle of poverty.
And, of course it's people who HAVE money who give to charities. Do you think this is news? Bulletin: Most in the poor and middle class don't have extra funds to give to charity. I'm not sure why you feel this argument suports your position.
Regarding knowing the percentages. Yes, I do. It's called knowing what your talking about and making an argument based of fact instead of simply spouting poisonous political dogma.
Again...wealth is a mindset. Giving handouts has never helped anyone for more than one day. Handouts make people worse off, because it makes them lazy. It's how communist and socialist governments come to power.
Want to end the cycle? Stop with the handouts and make people learn to be responsible for themselves.
And there are quite a few that aren't wealthy that give to charity and those less fortunate. When you give more, you get more. You'll never find anyone that's given money to someone less fortunate and has come out worse off financially. Never.
You can try to sit on your high horse and talk about the evil rich man, but the rich man does more for those less fortunate than others. Is it because they have the funds? Maybe.
But many, many of them weren't born into money. They busted their tail to become successful and they had the right MINDSET. If you don't EARN your money, you don't respect it. If you don't respect it, you'll be poor, no matter how much you're given.
I'd rather teach a man to fish than give him a fish. It's better for them and it's better for us.
I go to a church where rich and poor worship together every week. We have a food pantry and many ministries going on all the time. This month we will be treating people from the projects to a Christmas dinner. When you realize that we all came into this world with no material possessions and we will all leave this world the same way, it puts things into prospective. Money is a responsibility and should be used in a responsible way. Money should not be a people divider. Hatred, jealousy, crime and sin divides us. Money just divides if it is used to take advantage of other people.
Maybe in Lollipop Land, but here in the real world rich parasites steal 40 cents of every dollar we earn and send it overseas where, at least for now, they can exploit the poor there.
I think the French knew how to handle an irresponsible Aristocracy
OMG, you are suggesting that we stop this rich/poor thing with the guillotine? Surely not.
I know the answer, but I also know some that don't or believe something different. Why is the financial situation, the net worth of an individual something that divides us ? Who is more responsible for that divisiveness the Rich or the Poor ? I personally cannot stand to hear it or see it................what is the biggest reason for it?
What divides me from the poor?
Work ethic
Sound decision making
A belief that we should all be responsible for our own actions
A belief that we should make do for ourselves instead of rely upon others to subsidize us
And, on a completely arrogant note: The gate that prevents them from coming on my land without permission, the security guard that keeps them off of my boat, and the soundproofing in my German sports car that prevents me from hearing their muffler rattle :P.
For the record, I consider there to be 2 types of poor people.
The first type (one that I myself used to be): Poor but with a strong work ethic and not only a desire to achieve, but a refusal to NOT achieve. Those who will do whatever it takes to "make it", will stop at nothing, and will not accept no for an answer. I love this type, and I make it a point to assist them whenever I can (I'm presently paying 25% of the annual tuition for one such young lady to go to the University of Washington). These are the go-getters, the ones who have a clear direction and goal.
The second type are the ones who feel that the world is unfair, who wallow in cesspools of their own self pity, who feel that just because they screwed around as kids and made bad choices as adults that it shouldn't block them from having everything I have, and who believe that it's my duty to subsidize their lifestyles and to give of my earnings to provide for them. I have no sympathy or care for these people, and frankly wish that we still utilized exile. These are the perpetual victims, who think that they just never got a fair shake in life.
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