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Old 12-06-2010, 11:58 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Originally Posted by jetgraphics View Post
Be careful. The misuse of terms is what got America into trouble in the first place.

Country can mean dirt, the people or the government.

Since 1933, there has been no constitutional government, at least not limited by the Constitution.

Emergency Powers Statutes, Senate Report SR 93-549, November 19, 1973
Senate Report 93-549
War and Emergency Powers Acts

"A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years (1933-1973), freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought into force by states of national emergency."
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So if you're curious, feel free to write to "your" congressman and senators and ask them about ending the "emergency" and returning to lawful government.
It might save us from further wreck and ruin...
By country I mean government, secret services, military, certain companies, etc., but also a lot of citizens who defend everything their government does, just to feel patriotic.

Regarding your quote, it's from 1973, right? Has there been any change meanwhile?

 
Old 12-06-2010, 12:52 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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In my opinion, any American that enables government activity that goes against America's principles should be considered as a traitor.
 
Old 12-06-2010, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Originally Posted by Neuling View Post
By country I mean government, secret services, military, certain companies, etc., but also a lot of citizens who defend everything their government does, just to feel patriotic.

Regarding your quote, it's from 1973, right? Has there been any change meanwhile?
Did you read the material at the link?
It's a SENATE REPORT.
Most Americans have lived their entire life under "emergency rules".

The perpetual "temporary" State of Emergency has not been rescinded.
It empowers the cornucopia of emergency "Executive Orders" emitted since 1933.

How do I know?
//www.city-data.com/forum/15895513-post18.html
There have been no "dollars" in circulation since 1933. (That was the reason for the "emergency" - bankruptcy of the Federal government).

House Joint Resolution 192 (June 1933) repudiated the promise to redeem "dollar bills" with "dollars" as required by Title 12 USC Sec. 411 (Federal Reserve Act of 1913). Usurers only needed 20 years to bring down the U.S. government and re-organize it under bankruptcy.

Welcome to the People's Democratic Socialist Republic of America!
(A wholly owned subsidiary of the IMF and World Bank)


http://mises.org/daily/3056
 
Old 12-06-2010, 01:07 PM
 
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It is amazing how many threads get closes and posts deleted. But here as a thread topic a CD poster professes to be an enabler of espionage in aiding to making public classified information, and the moderators do nothing.

Simply amazing.
 
Old 12-06-2010, 01:09 PM
 
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1) Any hack job can disguise their IP by routing their hits thorugh the use of proxies and various methods.
2) You obviously know that the 192 ips are internal ips, and wouldnt be the source of attacks, right?

Government wouldnt need to hack your servers, they'd simply pull the plug at the ISP, and I'm willing to bet that government could get into your system, or almost any system if they wanted.
1) I'm a security specialist, My methods already take into account spoofing (which is the word you were digging for but couldn't find). Nice try though.

2) You can't trace a hack attempt INTO a private network. In order to do so, you would have to hack into the network through the public IP, and even that is sketchy as to whether it could be done if they had a proper NAT configuration done on the firewall/router, which would open a whole other bag of worms. Doing that would have men in black at my door in relatively short order, and I would get the Kevin Poulsen/Jonathon James treatment (google them). And even at that, the information of the private internal address would be useless. The furthest that can be traced to is the last public address. ALL of the private IP's I listed are "internal IP's". Just because all you ever see at home or at work is 192 doesn't mean that the 10, the 172 are any different (the 127 is a loopback).

3) Yes, I'm sure the US government can walk into Belize at any time and shut down my hosting provider. Or it could be I chose Belize specifically BECAUSE they do not have a cooperation treatise with the US government (or any other government, for that matter), and thus have no authority there.

Seriously, you're a complete novice when it comes to tech. Why did you even attempt to come on here and try and sound knowledgeable?
 
Old 12-06-2010, 01:09 PM
 
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It is amazing how many threads get closes and posts deleted. But here as a thread topic a CD poster professes to be an enabler of espionage in aiding to making public classified information, and the moderators do nothing.

Simply amazing.
Shun them!

Shun them all!
 
Old 12-06-2010, 01:15 PM
 
Location: California
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1) I'm a security specialist, Seriously, you're a complete novice when it comes to tech. Why did you even attempt to come on here and try and sound knowledgeable?
Oh really and you have a mirror site showing classified and secret documents to the public? and you're posting about it on a public forum
You didn't say Men in black? LOL
 
Old 12-06-2010, 01:18 PM
 
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Originally Posted by lifelongMOgal View Post
It is amazing how many threads get closes and posts deleted. But here as a thread topic a CD poster professes to be an enabler of espionage in aiding to making public classified information, and the moderators do nothing.

Simply amazing.
You will note that the US has never filed any warrant against Assange, instead pressuring Interpol to pursue him on some trumped up Swedish charges from a woman the US in all probability paid to frame him. Don't you wonder why that is?

Or why Amazon and Paypal were only "pressured" by politicians (not law enforcement) to shut down their relations with Wikileaks. Again, why do you think that is?

It's because for all the blustering the politicians and the White House do about how what Assange and company are doing, the reality is he does nothing illegal, and neither does any enterprise which chooses to do business with him.
 
Old 12-06-2010, 01:20 PM
 
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Oh really and you have a mirror site showing classified and secret documents to the public? and you're posting about it on a public forum
You didn't say Men in black? LOL
There is little to no difficulty in anyone who wants to figure out who's network it is ferreting it out. The IP address to my testing center is publicly registered. I "own" a block of them (think of an IP address like having title to land, since there is a finite number of both). Anybody, especially a government, can simply type in that address and see that it belongs to me. As such, I have no need to attempt to be "secretive" as to the fact I'm serving as a host, especially since it's perfectly legal. As I said previously, "I'm sure they already know".
 
Old 12-06-2010, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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i hope they are successful. in my humble opinion any American being a mirro host for wikileaks should be considered legally as a traitor.

you should be treated as such.
I bet you're another one against 'big government'? LOL.
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