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Old 12-07-2010, 03:08 PM
 
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You mean "a" private school. It's very similar to the books my kids read in HS and college. Public schools, if you are interested.
At MY private Baptist HS we didn't read anything much. We looks at the Greek NT a lot (in was our "foreign language" hehehe). I didn't learn any math either. It was the worst education you could imagine.
Sorry you had such a bad experience at your "one" private school. But its never too late dear. You can probably stop by a used bookstore and start at the top of the list. May take a while, but eventually you will read all the books on the list. Then, do get back with us so we can chat.
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Michaux State Forest
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I don't know which is more frightening purposefull ignorance or "Even before Glenn Beck told us to" Sounds an awful lot like a cult to me. Who has that much power over people? It is simply amazing. They read something of his or hear him and then it starts showing up here. It is real scary stuff. Talk about brainwashed.
No wonder our educational system is in dire straits. Don't ever teach anything that offers a different point of view!
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:43 PM
 
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Yeah. I guess they could have called it, "The Horrors of Capitalism and Why We Need Socialism in the United States."
Socialist cells spread throughout the U.S.
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Thumbs down Instead of losing your minds over this...

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Another reason to get your kids out of the public school of indoctrination!



Teacher Assigns Students to Read About ‘Wine-Guzzling Socialist’ Jesus Christ | The Blaze

Let's look at what really happened.

There are about half a million teachers in America.

One teacher in New Jersey assigned a book to her classes that has a one sentence reference in it to the "wine-guzzling" phrase from a tent revival meeting. The rest of the book has nothing to do religion.

If you're so frightened that something this weak will shake the bedrock of you or your child's faith, then you were never strong believers to begin with. To hold this up as an indictment of public education is beyond silly. It's just plain dumb.
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Old 12-07-2010, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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I just read the link. Talk about a misleading thread title. I have read this book. I didn't much care for it. But to lift one sentence out of it and say that's what kids are reading about is disingenuous, AKA, lying.
Shocked! SHOCKED! I'm am shocked that public school kids did not actually read about a 'wine guzzling socialist jesus christ'. Shocked!
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Old 12-07-2010, 04:17 PM
 
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Let's look at what really happened.

There are about half a million teachers in America.

One teacher in New Jersey assigned a book to her classes that has a one sentence reference in it to the "wine-guzzling" phrase from a tent revival meeting. The rest of the book has nothing to do religion.

If you're so frightened that something this weak will shake the bedrock of you or your child's faith, then you were never strong believers to begin with. To hold this up as an indictment of public education is beyond silly. It's just plain dumb.

Are you really that naive or are you just playing it? This is going on all over the country and if you read through the thread and links you would know that it is not simply about religion. The author is a member of the Democratic Socialist Party and this is a blatent anti-Capitalist philosophy book. It is use of literature to push a progressive agenda. Read the link about the artist who tells first hand how the government is using the National Endowment of the Arts to push their political programs. They know that weapons are not needed to overturn our capitalist government, they just need our kids day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year so they can feed them massive amounts of propaganda. End result at graduation - Wheee! We've got a Die Hard Liberal/Progressive who if we are lucky is an Activist!

If you are a liberal/progressive, you probably won't be bothered by this; but wait until the pendulum swings...
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Old 12-07-2010, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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“wine-guzzling vagrant and precocious socialist.”

a crass way of describing jesus but....... accurate. he did drink wine, he was a homeless nomad, he was wise beyond his years and if an economic philosophy were ascribed to jesus based on his teachings it would be much closer to socialism than free-market capitalism.
I can tell that, like most people, your terminology is skewed by the world's greatest propaganda ministry.

Jesus was not a socialist, nor ever preached compulsory charity, under the authority of government. Nor did he approve of usury (i.e., corporate / finance "capitalism").

The actual definition of capitalism only refers to private ownership, so Jesus would be in favor of capitalism.

Voluntary charity is a blessing.
Compulsory charity is a curse.
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Old 12-07-2010, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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. They know that weapons are not needed to overturn our capitalist government
What is a capitalist government?

Why are you so pessimistic towards the abilities of people to use their minds (I have a thought as to why that might be but )?
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Old 12-07-2010, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Are you really that naive or are you just playing it? This is going on all over the country and if you read through the thread and links you would know that it is not simply about religion. The author is a member of the Democratic Socialist Party and this is a blatent anti-Capitalist philosophy book. It is use of literature to push a progressive agenda. Read the link about the artist who tells first hand how the government is using the National Endowment of the Arts to push their political programs. They know that weapons are not needed to overturn our capitalist government, they just need our kids day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year so they can feed them massive amounts of propaganda. End result at graduation - Wheee! We've got a Die Hard Liberal/Progressive who if we are lucky is an Activist!

If you are a liberal/progressive, you probably won't be bothered by this; but wait until the pendulum swings...
You're simply seeing what you want to see.

Students SHOULD read books from both sides and everything in between. They should dissect it, and discuss it and be taught to make rational decisions by the time they reach adulthood. Just because they read a book doesn't mean they're going to automatically agree with the subject. Perhaps a student will read it and say 'Hey, this is all BS' and maybe another will say 'Hey, this is a good idea'. THAT'S what they're supposed to be thinking.

I'm really happy that my school had us reading books that were all over the economic and political spectrum. Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean it's automatically wrong... tutor your kids in your spare time with your own opinions and give them an alternative view.
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Old 12-07-2010, 04:31 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I'm not going to read the book, but I do agree with the idea that many Christian religions, Evengelicals, Protestants, and Catholics alike, spend way too much time emphasizing the crucifiction and not enough about the message that Jesus preached. About 5 years ago my appendix burst and I almost died. While I went to church, I wasn't really that involved in it, I treated it more like a social responsibility. After I got out of the hospital, I started reading all I could about Jesus, from all sorts of academic, secular, and religious sources. We really do Jesus a disservice by not spending more time analyzing his teachings and spending too much time on "Theological" meaning of his crucifiction and ressurection. If you study his teachings, you understand why he was crucified: his teachings undermined the religious leadership of the Jewish temple and the authority of Rome. If you don't fully grasp the scope of his teachings, then you can't really fully appreciate the events and meaning of the crucifiction.

As for Jesus being a drunkard, maybe those far-right-wing Evengelicals should take time out from selectively reading the gay-bashing passages in Leviticus and read the actual gospels:

"But to what will I compare this generation? It is like children sitting in the marketplaces and calling to one another, “We played the flute for you, and you did not dance; we wailed, and you did not mourn.” For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, “He has a demon,” the Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, “Look, a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!” Yet wisdom is vindicated by her deeds." (Matthew 11:16–19)

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