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Old 12-07-2010, 07:22 PM
 
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It's was Obama and Ayers.
I sorta suspected that.
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Old 12-07-2010, 07:23 PM
 
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Without being told, I don't think he did.

have you ever watched the documentary on WACO? If you did you can see how it would drive someone already on the edge, over the top. It was all out murder with laughing and bragging officers.
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Old 12-07-2010, 07:26 PM
 
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have you ever watched the documentary on WACO? If you did you can see how it would drive someone already on the edge, over the top. It was all out murder with laughing and bragging officers.
Familiar theme: Ruby Ridge
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Old 12-07-2010, 07:35 PM
 
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have you ever watched the documentary on WACO? If you did you can see how it would drive someone already on the edge, over the top. It was all out murder with laughing and bragging officers.
I can see it with McVeigh. He had that look of determined honor on his face.
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Old 12-07-2010, 07:46 PM
 
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The conspiracy theory that probably did the most harm in history was Hitlers theories about the Jewish people. Those theories remain today with neo-Nazi groups.

Conspiracy theories in science... Conspiracy theories in science : Article : EMBO reports
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Old 12-07-2010, 07:59 PM
 
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Since there seems to be quite a number of them here on CD, I thought this subject timely.

Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber, was a conspiracy theorist. He believed that a shadowy elite of bankers and industrialists and politicians are plotting in secret to take over the world, disarm gun enthusiasts and implement a sinister New World Order - a world government that will destroy anyone who disobeys. McVeigh considered the Murrah building in Oklahoma City to be the local headquarters of the New World Order.

Why are conspiracy theories dangerous? The most obvious reason is that they can and often do create large-scale scapegoating. The conspiracies we will be examining describe attempts to control the entire world. It is rare not to find this idea mated with the belief that some particular group is acting to accomplish this - after all, you need a lot of people to control the whole world. Popular choices for scapegoating include Jews, Freemasons and even Catholics. No matter what group is chosen, they are ultimately made the source of all the world's problems.

Conspiracy Theories (part 1 of 2)
Kind of like Obama being a secret Muslim socialist-Marxist from Kenya, that gets repeated as gospel around this forum on a day to day constant basis?

What about the conspiracy theories such as Gulf of Tonkin, operations Northwoods, Mockingbird, or ECHELON, MKULTRA, our many of the coups in which the CIA has taken part of or instigated, such as the 1953 coup called Operation Ajax? Not to mention the many many other conspiracies that actually turned out to be true in part of whole.

The definition of a conspiracy is when two or more people "conspire" to commit an act or take action, generally associated with a negative connotation. The main purpose to make the term "conspiracy theory" associated with tin folk hat wearing kooks, and some certainly are, is that whenever a person wants to denounce a theory or hypothesis, one merely has to say, "oh its a conspiracy theory" and immediately images of the most crazy of crazies is what comes to mind. This is the point.

As we have seen recently with the Wikileaks gig, whether you support it or denounce it, the fact is that information is difficult and in some cases next to impossible to fully secure. In our information age, and in the event information does get out, then the next step is to denounce it by either having it buried in a sea of information or when it is discovered, call it a conspiracy theory and associate with kooks.

Shouldn't everyone look at a piece of information and ask, first is it even possible within the realms of the physical universe. Secondly, it is possible or plausible that the information could be true, even if remotely. Third, how remote is the possibility and just how plausible is it for a human being or group of humans to do it. (remove your own personal biases of favor to those things which you generally believe) Then ask, if it is plausible, is it then credible or even reasonable? Obviously, its a process of disseminating the quality of a piece of information on its face by using the most objective and logical means one can.

After all, in the end, each conspiracy theory, past or present was generally disbelieved or believed based not as much on critical analysis of information but on the basis of personal biases. After all, no one would have believed that our government would use its own citizens as experimental test subjects, right?
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Seattle
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Kind of like Obama being a secret Muslim socialist-Marxist from Kenya, that gets repeated as gospel around this forum on a day to day constant basis?
Exactly. Sad isn't it?
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Boise
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The conspiracy theory that probably did the most harm in history was Hitlers theories about the Jewish people. Those theories remain today with neo-Nazi groups.

Conspiracy theories in science... Conspiracy theories in science : Article : EMBO reports
They also remain with the likes of Helen Thomas and people who buy into her zionist conspiracies.
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:06 PM
 
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It's the Bilderbergs!
Bilderberg Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 12-07-2010, 08:57 PM
 
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I can see it with McVeigh. He had that look of determined honor on his face.

I'm sure that look was more like demented honor.
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