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Old 12-08-2010, 12:26 PM
 
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It's a fillibuster plain and simple... The Wall Street Journal article even says so...
No it doesnt..

Stop and read it closely..
If the bill sponsors get 60 supporters then it has enough to stop a filibuster IF ONE WERE TO TAKE PLACE.
If the vote takes place, ITS NOT A FILIBUSTER..

A filibuster by definition STOPS THE VOTE...
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But the question remains... Why are the Republicans against Health Insurance for 9/11 responders?...
They arent, they are against a bill which costs jobs.. Why are Democrats pushing a bill that costs americans their jobs and increases unemployment?
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Old 12-08-2010, 12:30 PM
 
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No it doesnt..

Stop and read it closely..
If the bill sponsors get 60 supporters then it has enough to stop a filibuster IF ONE WERE TO TAKE PLACE.
If the vote takes place, ITS NOT A FILIBUSTER..

A filibuster by definition STOPS THE VOTE...

They arent, they are against a bill which costs jobs.. Why are Democrats pushing a bill that costs americans their jobs and increases unemployment?
How exactly does this bill cost American jobs and increase Unemployment?...
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Old 12-08-2010, 12:33 PM
 
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How exactly does this bill cost American jobs and increase Unemployment?...
I dont know, I'm not the one who said it does.. How does not passing the bill cause people to DIE? Last I checked we had national healthcare coming which would cover EVERYONE right?

its 10 years after the fact and you are claiming people will DIE if its not passed.. Tell me when can we expect this to take place? 10 years, 20 years later? I bet if we wait 100 years you can come back and say yep.. look, the GOP didnt pass the bill.. everyone DIED because of it..
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Old 12-08-2010, 12:35 PM
 
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I dont know, I'm not the one who said it does.. How does not passing the bill cause people to DIE? Last I checked we had national healthcare coming which would cover EVERYONE right?

its 10 years after the fact and you are claiming people will DIE if its not passed.. Tell me when can we expect this to take place? 10 years, 20 years later? I bet if we wait 100 years you can come back and say yep.. look, the GOP didnt pass the bill.. everyone DIED because of it..
Denying 9/11 responders Health Insurance who got sick from Ground Zero toxic cleanup... That's how people will die from not passing this bill...
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Old 12-08-2010, 12:41 PM
 
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Denying 9/11 responders Health Insurance who got sick from Ground Zero toxic cleanup... That's how people will die from not passing this bill...
Its been 10 years, when exactly do they start to die? And why dont they have insurance, we have national healthcare right?

You see the little diatribe about "people will die" is just that, a diatribe.. Why dont you discuss facts and answer the question.

When do these people begin to die!!! Its been 10 years, and Democrats held Congress for 4 years.. Why didnt you guys pass this bill if itw as to save people from DYING? How many deaths are the Democrats responsible for since you guys waited? Do yo uhave any FACTS what so ever, or is it all about making up bs to try to attack the GOP with no facts what so ever!!
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Old 12-08-2010, 12:42 PM
 
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Its been 10 years, when exactly do they start to die? And why dont they have insurance, we have national healthcare right?

You see the little diatribe about "people will die" is just that, a diatribe.. Why dont you discuss facts and answer the question.

When do these people begin to die!!! Its been 10 years, and Democrats held Congress for 4 years.. Why didnt you guys pass this bill if itw as to save people from DYING? How many deaths are the Democrats responsible for since you guys waited? Do yo uhave any FACTS what so ever, or is it all about making up bs to try to attack the GOP with no facts what so ever!!
Where have you been?... Several people have already died and are still sick from Ground Zero toxic cleanup...
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Old 12-08-2010, 01:00 PM
 
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Where have you been?... Several people have already died and are still sick from Ground Zero toxic cleanup...
Yes I know "several" have died, but paying for their bills at the taxpayers expense wont change this. Americans pitched in funds by the billions did they not to help care for these individuals. They are dying because they are sick.. Not because they have no care. This bill wont change that fact..

And over 70,000 individuals are covered in the proposed bill. How many is several have died and when? How many of those deaths are because Democrats couldnt pass the bill when they had 100% control of Congress? Why do we now need a special bill to cover 70,000 individuals in the nation when we all know that we have national healthcare right? This is like saying everyone in the classroom gets an A, and then needing to write a seperate bill saying boys get A's.. Well they were already covered with "everyone" so why now the special exemptions for these 70,000 individuals?

You see your long on attacks but very short on answers.
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Old 12-08-2010, 01:35 PM
 
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Yes I know "several" have died, but paying for their bills at the taxpayers expense wont change this. Americans pitched in funds by the billions did they not to help care for these individuals. They are dying because they are sick.. Not because they have no care. This bill wont change that fact..

And over 70,000 individuals are covered in the proposed bill. How many is several have died and when? How many of those deaths are because Democrats couldnt pass the bill when they had 100% control of Congress? Why do we now need a special bill to cover 70,000 individuals in the nation when we all know that we have national healthcare right? This is like saying everyone in the classroom gets an A, and then needing to write a seperate bill saying boys get A's.. Well they were already covered with "everyone" so why now the special exemptions for these 70,000 individuals?

You see your long on attacks but very short on answers.
So why are the Republicans fillibustering the bill now?...
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Old 12-08-2010, 01:40 PM
 
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Why all of a sudden does liberals care about anything 9-11?

Remember it was an inside job and are ok with a Mosque being built right next door among other idiotic ideas.

Liberals have had total control of congress for 4 years and just now are looking at this?

Give it a break.

Liberals lose again, but nice try.

Keep spending money we do not have liberals.
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Old 12-08-2010, 01:42 PM
 
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Why all of a sudden does liberals care about anything 9-11?

Remember it was an inside job and are ok with a Mosque being built right next door among other idiotic ideas.

Liberals have had total control of congress for 4 years and just now are looking at this?

Give it a break.

Liberals lose again, but nice try.

Keep spending money we do not have liberals.
Just like on the war in Iraq and Afghanistan... Didn't the Republicans just get their tax cuts extended?... How's that going to get paid for?... Before you say less spending... Less spending on what?...
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