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Old 12-09-2010, 02:46 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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This is why people should never represent themselves in court. They watch a couple of episodes of Matlock and think they know something...

Sorry, but if you mean me I have represented myself in court 2 times in my life and defeated the plaintiffs twice and received a nice sum of money for doing so. They were business related cases inwhich I defeated a high paid Columbus Oh attorney who later asked me what law background I had.

I am 2-0 in a court, defeating two high powered law firms in the way.

Nice paychecks also.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:46 PM
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She was no victim, she was there to cause trouble or harm to the candidate.
AKA, She was there to exercise her 1st Amendment rights.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:48 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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AKA, She was there to exercise her 1st Amendment rights.

So she had to hide her identity and make up a false sign to get her rights?

Sorry, she was not there to speak, she was there to cause harm or to cause a riot.

Her background again comes into play.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:48 PM
 
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Sorry, but if you mean me I have represented myself in court 2 times in my life and defeated the plaintiffs twice and received a nice sum of money for doing so. They were business related cases inwhich I defeated a high paid Columbus Oh attorney who later asked me what law background I had.

I am 2-0 in a court, defeating two high powered law firms in the way.

Nice paychecks also.
In what, small claims court? LOL

Interesting to learn that you've gotten sued a couple of times.

From what I have read on this thread from you, I don't believe a word of what you wrote above. Not one word.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Santa Barbara
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Do you even know her history?

What was her purpose for being there? Afterall she was not a local person and just happened to be in the area?

How do you know what she was up to?
According to the interview I saw with her shortly after this happened she was there to film a scene for a satiricle movie that she was filming. Her whole purpose was to get a shot of her, Paul, and her sign for the movie. She had been to several of his rallies and while not a supporter, was not a threat. The supporters recognized her and stopped her from getting her desired shot filmed. The security assigned to the rally was not worried about her like many others that were not supportive of Paul.

The dude that had her under foot was a bully and should be ashamed of himself. While we can all have differing opinions, how we respond to others is what matters. They should have kept their hands and feet off of her. They acted like pigs.

She is in her early 20's.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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FACTS

She is a felon and has DOMESTIC TERRORIST charges on her record along with other arrest history.

So now you are defending a terrorist criminal?

Goodness.

* But it was ok for her to attack the candidate with a sign according to you?

Until she is found guilty of it, the domestic terrorist charge is irrelevant, as it is a charge. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

So, please, drop that irrelevant train of thought. It's not admissable in court, therefore has no bearing in this case.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:50 PM
 
Location: On Top
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Wrong.

No one is stating her political views are the most important part of this.

Her history and CRIMINAL RECORD prove she is a trouble maker and is a known domestic terrorist.

Nice spin, but "her" political views is what caused her to have such a long criminal record at age 23.
Last time I checked she is NOT on trial.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:50 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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In what, small claims court? LOL

Interesting to learn that you've gotten sued a couple of times.

From what I have read on this thread from you, I don't believe a word of what you wrote above. Not one word.

When you own a successful business you will find that some people want what you got.

Sued or not, they lost and paid me a nice sum of money.

People get sued all the time, and some get taken down for trying.

Who cares what you believe.

I know I am right and you are protecting a known terrorist. Typical of most left wingers.
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:51 PM
 
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None of which, even if true, has a damn thing to do with the commission of a battery.
Assault and Battery legal definition of Assault and Battery. Assault and Battery synonyms by the Free Online Law Dictionary.

Intent is an essential element of both offenses. Generally, it is only necessary for the defendant to have an intent to do the act that causes the harm. In other words, the act must be done voluntarily. Although an intent to harm the victim is likely to exist, it is not a required element of either offense. There is an exception to this rule for the attempted battery type of criminal assault. If a defendant who commits this crime does not have an intent to harm the victim, the individual cannot be guilty of the offense.

The question comes down to, did they INTEND to assault the girl? The video appears that they intended to restrain her until the police came.. They were clearly yelling for someone to get the police.

Thats not assault and battery..
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Old 12-09-2010, 02:51 PM
 
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Sorry, but if you mean me I have represented myself in court 2 times in my life and defeated the plaintiffs twice and received a nice sum of money for doing so. They were business related cases inwhich I defeated a high paid Columbus Oh attorney who later asked me what law background I had.

I am 2-0 in a court, defeating two high powered law firms in the way.

Nice paychecks also.
Good for you. I assume these were civil cases. Criminal law is something different altogether.

The judge simply cannot look at her background and decide that she deserved the attack, but she or he can determine whether restraint was in order--and can do so largely based on her background.

But not the attack itself.
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