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Old 12-09-2010, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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The following is a link to the complete event, for those who want to understand the comments in context.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXQULHoIKmE
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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When you have people running around yelling about taking back "their country". And who call Obama a socialist out to destroy the country. I don't need a divining stick to tell me who my enemies are. So if you are looking for folks who think like Mr. Jones, you need not look any further.
Is it Jones and his leftist thinking, his race, or what that makes you like him so much. I really don't want to look at you as you say I should, but if I must I guess I can do it.
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The following is a link to the complete event, for those who want to understand the comments in context.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXQULHoIKmE
Thanks for the link to the whole thing. I couldn't get past the first question since I have been called a racist since the election of 2008 because people who agree with these people think that not voting for Obama makes one a racist. I have also been called a racist because I don't like Van Jones since I heard his keynote speech at Power Shift, 09. What does that power shift crap suggest to you? I will go back and watch some more of that when I have some time. I have some research for people like you to get done.
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:12 PM
 
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Jones talked about being in the White House as a czar for 6 months in that video. Actually he was talking to a far left group about what they have to do to finish their take over of our government.
So the government belongs to you? Who are you excluding from "our"?
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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So the government belongs to you? Who are you excluding from "our"?
Why, hell, William, Van Jones is a citizen of the US so I would think that you could consider him as involved in "our" system. I don't think I said anything in that post that intimated that the government belongs to me and the other whites in the nation. I do think that Jones is being used by powerful whites to gain control for that group. Spooky Dude Soros is considered white, isn't he?
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:18 PM
 
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Maybe you would feel about him just the way I do.
I have and I don't.

I'm about thinking, not feeling, you have some specific points that you want to discuss, fine. But, I am not going to sit here and play, if you heard, if you read, if you knew, games with you. Either put your specific objections on the table or move on.
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:25 PM
 
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Maybe you need to think about what he was talking about as far as that primary is concerned. Maybe you need to think a bit more about who the enemies of people who think like Jones does are.

I have heard that thing several times and haven't heard the part about layiing that whip down. Where did you hear him saying that?

Do you know what Van Jones was doing during his 6 months in the White House? Do you know why he had to leave that job
1:19 into the Blaze video. Its even printed on the screen.

We've not been trained to grab the whip and put it down and run the plantation.

He was hired as a Special Advisor to the President for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation.
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:29 PM
 
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I have and I don't.

I'm about thinking, not feeling, you have some specific points that you want to discuss, fine. But, I am not going to sit here and play, if you heard, if you read, if you knew, games with you. Either put your specific objections on the table or move on.
Where does Jones work today? Could it be CAP? Is that one of the organizations started by George Soros for a specific purpose? Maybe Spooky Dude isn't even involved with them but he does hand out plenty of loot to them to operate with.

It seemed to me that when the Green Czar had to leave the White House that something was afoot and maybe not the fact that he was their Green man.

Again, Jones is one of the best looking men I know of but I certainly can't trust him after listening to him talk and seeing who employs him when he needs a job. Center for American Progress? Yep, that says plenty about what Jones believes in. That word, progress, is so used by many people.
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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1:19 into the Blaze video. Its even printed on the screen.

We've not been trained to grab the whip and put it down and run the plantation.

He was hired as a Special Advisor to the President for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation.
I don't care about his race but do wonder why he got out of the White House so soon after being exposed to the world for what he had been. I love to hear him talking "green" in that Power Shift,09 speech. What did he mean by what he said about the American Indians there? It sounded so much like reparations was the subject at that point.

Why would putting the whip down allow blacks to run the plantation? I don't understand that at all.
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Old 12-09-2010, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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I don't care about his race but do wonder why he got out of the White House so soon after being exposed to the world for what he had been. I love to hear him talking "green" in that Power Shift,09 speech. What did he mean by what he said about the American Indians there? It sounded so much like reparations was the subject at that point.
He referring to the American legacy of breaking treaties with Native-American tribes and confiscating the land of Native-Americans once their land was deamed of value to the United States Government. He believes correctly or incorrectly that some Native-American land is of value for generating green energy. If the historical pattern holds true, then instead of allowing Native-Americans to develop the land; some excuse will be found to deprive them of the now valuable land. He is stating that that should not happen this time.
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Why would putting the whip down allow blacks to run the plantation? I don't understand that at all.
It means when those who have been oppressed under the old order finally gain power they should not use the tools (ie the whip) of the old order. However, they do need to overcome their reluctance to govern and assume positions of authority.
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