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Old 07-12-2007, 09:58 AM
 
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I was hoping that the weak dollar would result in increased exports for
the US economy resulting in a reduction in trade deficits. Imagine my
surprise when I saw this:

Trade Deficit Up Significantly: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance (broken link)

It seems that we are importing so much oil (and boatloads of opium
from china) that it does not matter what we export, we are still
in the red.

Can you please stop hurting my country with your hummer?
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Hopewell New Jersey
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Before you knock it you should try a Hummer. It might take your mind off things you have no control over.

A friend of mine recently got one and he swears by it.




Some of the smaller SUV's actually get good MPG.
Your mileage may vary,
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:29 AM
 
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Originally Posted by normalguy View Post
I was hoping that the weak dollar would result in increased exports for
the US economy resulting in a reduction in trade deficits. Imagine my
surprise when I saw this:

Trade Deficit Up Significantly: Financial News - Yahoo! Finance (broken link)

It seems that we are importing so much oil (and boatloads of opium
from china) that it does not matter what we export, we are still
in the red.

Can you please stop hurting my country with your hummer?
The current administration has worked hard to reduce the value of the US dollar for precisely the reasons you hoped for... it just didn't work (surprise). Now we're stuck with a crappy dollar AND a ridiculous trade deficit.

What's our trade deficit look like without oil in it?
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Penobscot Bay, the best place in Maine!
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It would be darn hard to haul 50 lobster traps down to the shore, or 250 gallons of bait, in the back of a Prius- I'll keep driving the pick-up truck, thanks...
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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It would be darn hard to haul 50 lobster traps down to the shore, or 250 gallons of bait, in the back of a Prius- I'll keep driving the pick-up truck, thanks...
Yes, because most Americans have a need for that sort of thing.

Actually we switched from a Nissan SUV to a minivan and the sheer amount more room in the minivan is STAGGERING, especially with 3 kids. You take the seats out and it's like a cargo van, and it gets much better gas mileage.
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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It is my sacred duty as a patriotic citizen to buy the largest SUV available and drive it as much as possible to fill it with all the great gasoline the providential oil companies provide to get the fine products available in Wal-Mart and pay for it with the most expensive credit card I can fine. In this way I do my part in supporting the economy and all the great multibillionaires that own the country, this I swear as a good consumer.

NOT!
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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It would be darn hard to haul 50 lobster traps down to the shore, or 250 gallons of bait, in the back of a Prius- I'll keep driving the pick-up truck, thanks...
I don't think you'll find a single person who has a problem with someone using a truck when there is legitimate need. What I don't like is seeing someone in a vehicle that's measured in gallons/mile, instead of miles/gallon, and they're driving to the grocery store, or commuting to work, alone. That's so incredibly wasteful. And while I would NEVER support government intervention, I do hope that the focus of our society moves away from such obscene wastefulness.

We should definitely spend more time studying John Stuart Mill and Utilitarianism, as a society. This country only adopted half of his philosphy, the militant individualism, but didn't adopt the self-regulating portion of his philosophy.
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:26 AM
 
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Based on available 2006 data on the US Economy:

2006 Exports: $ 1.024 trillion
2006 Imports: $ 1.869 Trillion (Oil 8.2%, consumer goods 31.8%)

Trade Deficit: $ 845 Billion
Trade Deficit if no oil was imported: $ 691 Billion
Trade Deficit if no consumer goods were imported : $250 Billion
Trade Deficit if there were no oil or consumer goods imports: $97 Billion

With a weak dollar this year, it would have helped some, but we
are miles from the word "surplus".

So, sorry about the outburst. Keep driving your big hummer,
keep wearing those baseball hats from China. The real issues
we should worry about, that really determine the future
of our country are: if abortion is allowed and Bob can marry Harry.
Energy independence, balance of trade, the education of our next
generation and health care are issues that only commies talk
about. Didn't we defeat them when the Berlin wall came down?
We rule!
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Based on available 2006 data on the US Economy:

2006 Exports: $ 1.024 trillion
2006 Imports: $ 1.869 Trillion (Oil 8.2%, consumer goods 31.8%)

Trade Deficit: $ 845 Billion
Trade Deficit if no oil was imported: $ 691 Billion
Trade Deficit if no consumer goods were imported : $250 Billion
Trade Deficit if there were no oil or consumer goods imports: $97 Billion

With a weak dollar this year, it would have helped some, but we
are miles from the word "surplus".

So, sorry about the outburst. Keep driving your big hummer,
keep wearing those baseball hats from China. The real issues
we should worry about, that really determine the future
of our country are: if abortion is allowed and Bob can marry Harry.
Energy independence, balance of trade, the education of our next
generation and health care are issues that only commies talk
about. Didn't we defeat them when the Berlin wall came down?
We rule!
Whew, tell us how you really feel about this.

Actually, although I am a free enterprise, pro-business kind of guy, I have some sympathies for your concern about fuel usage. I am not in favor of terminating these vehicles, but a surtax of 3-5% of purchase price for vehicles with a combined EPA mileage of below 25 MPG would be OK with me, with the pool of money redistributed as a 3-5% tax credit of the purchase price for vehicles with a combined EPA mileage above 40 MPG.
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Old 07-12-2007, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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Whew, tell us how you really feel about this.

Actually, although I am a free enterprise, pro-business kind of guy, I have some sympathies for your concern about fuel usage. I am not in favor of terminating these vehicles, but a surtax of 3-5% of purchase price for vehicles with a combined EPA mileage of below 25 MPG would be OK with me, with the pool of money redistributed as a 3-5% tax credit of the purchase price for vehicles with a combined EPA mileage above 40 MPG.
Wow, a pro-business guy who's for redistribution of wealth. What a concept!

That's actually not a bad idea. Or maybe use the credits toward covering the premium for hybrid technology. Or put it toward better mass transit or car-pool/HOV lanes.
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