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the post above and so many posts that fear the intrusion of our government to the extreme extent, makes me wonder if you all are hording canned goods and fresh water for when the goons comes to take away your salt and collect your hundred bucks for forced health care. truly nuts the fears some people have.
The concern I have is what happens to this country when its citizens have so little regard for the Constitution and the rule of law. Apparently you have very little from your post. Fear? That is your word, not mine; projecting as usual?
You miss the point. We are sick and tired of politicians, and their wives, continually expanding the scope and reach of the federal government. When is enough, enough with these wannabe socialists? Now we need the feds to pay billions for after school meals?
The function of the federal government is not to take on every little nit-noid problem, and turn it into a new billion dollar taxpayer funded concern of the federal government. We have state governments, we have cities and counties, but these cease to exist in the minds of people like 0bama. If we cannot even feed our children anymore without the federal government's aid, then we may as well just give up our states rights, and be done with it.
Between federal income taxes, federal regulations and unfunded mandates, the federal government is sucking half the wealth from this nation. We are $13+ trillion in debt from busybodies in the federal government creating more federal programs and mandates. After school meals... really? The next time Barack "Wrecking Ball" 0bama disingenuously claims he wants to reduce federal spending, ask him to start by eliminating this program.
every admin pushes their agenda, every first lady has a project. to bring out the world socialist tells me you have a skewed view of this admin. obama is a democrat. I wasn't fond of bush but I never called dictator although many people wondered.
we do not under any admin get to pick and choose what we get to pay for when it comes to taxes. no kids, should I get to opt out? no car should I not have to pay transportation taxes? we do pay too much.
we have plenty of programs we could eliminate why would we start with one that gives less to hungry children. far more waste going on then to worry about.
The concern I have is what happens to this country when its citizens have so little regard for the Constitution and the rule of law. Apparently you have very little from your post. Fear? That is your word, not mine; projecting as usual?
you think wrong to assume I have little regard for the constitution. it isn't my posts who have mentioned overreach of the government and how they have no right to intrude. it is not I who fears the government.
no one has ever said what difference it makes if the state or the feds take care of this, either way the government is doing it. in this case the feds are doing it because the states won't. rally to eliminate waste from other places but to rally against feeding hungry kids because the fed is doing it and not the state is pitiful. I have a feeling the posters opposed to this would be opposed even if it was the state doing it. any spending they don't approve of should be stopped
Because too many people, like you apparently, think the feds will be along soon, to take care of it all.
Another reason is that the federal government is taking so much wealth out of the states, through high income taxes, that the states are denied a lot of revenue. It's a vicious cycle, the feds drain away resources from the states, and the states find it more and more difficult to meet their commitments. so the fed dives in with a new federal program, funded by more income taxes, and then the states have less revenue - rinse, repeat.
This new $10 billion federal program will drain $200 million more from each state. The states cannot seem to object to these tactics, and slowly but surely the federal government grows, and grows, and the states ' ability to take care of their own citizens shrinks.
It comes down to the voters in the state, and their desire to do something about whatever situation. Problem is, if the state stopped all federal school lunch programs, the freaking feds will still drain taxes from the state to fund the school lunch program. so now the state is out the revenue the feds drain for the program, and the state is funding their own program on top of it. It like tpaying for your own health care needs in cash, but still being taxed to pay for 0bamaCare.
Obviously you know nothing about me. As if I'd ever let my children go hungry. My mother packed a lunch for me when I went to school, we did not have a school lunch program. We packed a lunch for our children most times, or we gave them money to buy their lunch, they were never allowed to go hungry.
Obviously, you know nothing about me, either. I don't feel that it's necessarily the Federal Government's job to "take care of it all". You've got that all wrong.
You criticize the Feds for doing what you think the states should do, but if the states are not doing it, where does that leave the children? You seem to be blaming the Feds for the problems of the states. I don't buy into that to the degree that you seem to. You complain about the amount of money the Feds take in income taxes. Umm..guess what the current Democrat / Republican fight is about right now...extension of the Tax Cuts that Bush II put into place. Your theory is leaking water.
The real problem is politics. I don't mean party politics specifically, but politics in the sense that every politician has his/her agenda. On the state level, if we were to eliminate the waste, greed, corruption, self-interest, and BS that goes on in most every state government, perhaps the money would be there to fund health food programs in schools with state money. I don't buy into your "The State is the victim" mentality. I will admit that I don't know a lot about the specifics of the Federal - State relationship in terms of taxes, etc., but I don't accept your characterization at face value.
Finally, I am not suggesting that you don't care whether your children eat...I'm saying that it has not been a concern for you in that you never had to worry about whether or not your kids ate. You had the means and knowledge to provide them healthy foods for lunch. Every parent does not. You actually make my point for me. Aside from that, no one is holding a gun to the parents' head and saying "Your child must eat our healthy school food". Parents that have the means to do it can always send the kids to school with a home-made lunch, as you pointed out in your post.
I believe that this Federal program (and believe me, I can't name many programs that the Feds have done right) is the right thing to do in the absence of the parents' ability and knowledge to get it done. I attended schools that participated in reduced-cost lunch programs. We were blessed enough not to need it. Kids whose parents' income was below a certain level qualified for and were able to participate in the program. For these kids it was the difference between being fed and going hungry all day. A child cannot learn on an empty stomach. I have seen this with my own eyes.
The Federal government may not be the "right" entity for bridging this gap, but dammit, somebody needs to do it, instead of pointing fingers at the failure of others, or pontificating about who "should" be doing it, while the children pay the price.
Considering all the wasteful Federal and State programs that are in place burning money, I see providing nutritous food for children as the right thing to do.
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the way i see it, if the school is going to provide school lunches then why not make it the healthiest lunch they can. it just might be the only healthy food some kids see
the way i see it, if the school is going to provide school lunches then why not make it the healthiest lunch they can. it just might be the only healthy food some kids see
The schools provide breakfast, lunch and dinner now.
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