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Kill the tax bill and start over with a new middle to lower package for next year? This would mean that everyones taxes would rise this year, but we wouldn't get screwed by the rich for the future. Divorce the tax bill from the unemployment issue so that the people who need the help the most get it, and the Repubs could not duck that issue?
The best thing to do is just let it go and expire. As it sits now it's so loaded with pork and spending it's unbelievable. With it expiring, it will raise and be a slap on the wrist for the average american, but will be a big blow to the rich. In the end the rich are going to be giving the republicans hell ten-fold over the average american, likely leaded to a more reasonable plan. Obama I don't think would go after unemployment by itself as republicans have refused to support it. The right already shot down the one million and under compromise so they have made it quite clear all they are out for are the wealthiest of the wealthy.
Kill the tax bill and start over with a new middle to lower package for next year? This would mean that everyones taxes would rise this year, but we wouldn't get screwed by the rich for the future. Divorce the tax bill from the unemployment issue so that the people who need the help the most get it, and the Repubs could not duck that issue?
The Rich ain't screwing you, your Government is. Get use to life.
The best thing to do is just let it go and expire. As it sits now it's so loaded with pork and spending it's unbelievable. With it expiring, it will raise and be a slap on the wrist for the average american, but will be a big blow to the rich. In the end the rich are going to be giving the republicans hell ten-fold over the average american, likely leaded to a more reasonable plan. Obama I don't think would go after unemployment by itself as republicans have refused to support it. The right already shot down the one million and under compromise so they have made it quite clear all they are out for are the wealthiest of the wealthy.
I agree. The whole pile should have been flushed, and maybe another rebate program initiated just for the middle class. The Repubs would NOT have allowed the unemployment extension to fail by their direct hand because they would have lost a lot of future votes from the sizable and permanently unemployed base.
The first thing I wondered after reading the first post was "How are the rich screwing us?"
Ask an unemployed worker who has had his job outsourced by a rich CEO, and is currently receiving unemployment benefits from the government, who is 'screwing' him.
Ask an unemployed worker who has had his job outsourced by a rich CEO, and is currently receiving unemployment benefits from the government, who is 'screwing' him.
You do not know how this works in corporations.
The CEO himself does not make the decisions.
The bean counters pull together statistics of all sorts.
Then the HR folks pull together statistics of skill types and salaries.
It is a meeting of MANY executives.
The decisions are based on labor costs vs profit.
Spending is increasing in foreign countries so it makes sound business sense to operate in those countries with local employees who can deal with the customers and know the culture.
Offshoring has been here for 40 years. The current depression has sent that many more jobs to those lower cost countries.
India and China are booming..9-10% growth this year.
Our growth is based on inventory stocking and government handouts.
If you were a business owner your decision has to be based on getting the best return for your business and your investors.
"social empathy" is for charities and government welfare programs.
If US consumers are not buying there is no need to expand in the US.
You do not know how this works in corporations.
The CEO himself does not make the decisions.
The bean counters pull together statistics of all sorts.
Then the HR folks pull together statistics of skill types and salaries.
It is a meeting of MANY executives.
The decisions are based on labor costs vs profit.
Spending is increasing in foreign countries so it makes sound business sense to operate in those countries with local employees who can deal with the customers and know the culture.
Offshoring has been here for 40 years. The current depression has sent that many more jobs to those lower cost countries.
India and China are booming..9-10% growth this year.
Our growth is based on inventory stocking and government handouts.
If you were a business owner your decision has to be based on getting the best return for your business and your investors.
"social empathy" is for charities and government welfare programs.
If US consumers are not buying there is no need to expand in the US.
I have worked in large corporations for a long time. The CEO is much like the president. HE SETS THE AGENDA. The board may add their 2 cents worth, but if the CEO decides on a certain course, they go along.
Outsourcing was not a huge problem until the last 10 years or so - when the I.T. and manufacturing base was mostly outsourced. Those 2 industries are basicly GONE now, and the financial and service jobs that filled the gap during the real estate bubble are gone as well. There is NOTHING permanent to replace the lost jobs. The stimulus is a series of temporary fixes. This sort of thing usually precludes the END of an empire.
I have worked in large corporations for a long time. The CEO is much like the president. HE SETS THE AGENDA. The board may add their 2 cents worth, but if the CEO decides on a certain course, they go along.
Outsourcing was not a huge problem until the last 10 years or so - when the I.T. and manufacturing base was mostly outsourced. Those 2 industries are basicly GONE now, and the financial and service jobs that filled the gap during the real estate bubble are gone as well. There is NOTHING permanent to replace the lost jobs. The stimulus is a series of temporary fixes. This sort of thing usually precludes the END of an empire.
"Manufacturing left" starting in the 60's.
"IT left" starting in the mid 90's.
With so many bubbles and easy money no one realized.
Those jobless recoveries weren't recoveries..it was loose money policies.
People didn't recover; they just got more in debt by spending money they didn't have.
Now that the easy money is gone..reality is hitting and it ain't pretty is it ?
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