What is wrong with jobs being moved overseas? (legal, companies, cost)
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You do realize Europe has more regulations, and higher taxes, but pays their manufacturing workers higher wages?...With the same level of unemployment? With universal health care?
Spain has 21% unemployment and is the most socialistic out of all of them.
The UAW wasn't broken. Don't you know that they have ownership of so much stock in GM and Chrysler? I think you are not really informed about who wrote the Obamacare and Stimulus laws. Of course, Andy Stern and the SEIU are not autoworkers but they were the first ones, along with UAW to benefit from all the allowances involving medical insurance. Surely you know that the national unions have been allowed to keep their workers from having to pay on company insurance benefits because of the way that bill was written. My son has to pay on his "insurance benefit" as it it was income but those union people don't get to do that. Look into it a bit further to find if I am wrong.
The UAW has lost about 80% of its worforce since the late '70s, about 1.5 workers leaving somewhere in the range of 300,000. The percentage of UAW workers now working for 14.00 an
hour is what 50% 75% I have no idea. Basically wages were cut in half in a little more than a year. I'd say the UAW has been fractured at the least. I'm curious to see the percentage of the U.S workforce (non government) thats are in a union, I'd bet its 8% at the most.
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Originally Posted by VTHokieFan
Maybe I'm completely off here, but doesn't it make economic sense to hire people who will work more hours for less money? Why blame businesses for moving their business from a country that is full of ridiculous regulations and high taxes to a country with the opposite? This makes perfect sense to me
It sounds like the United States is simply losing its competitive edge, if it's going to take so much regulation and restriction to keep jobs here. Maybe we should address the real problem and not the fruits of the problem.
you cant be serious.. outsourcing is bad for the country as a whole,,it will benefit only a few greedy bastards that don't give a crap about the average joe.. the demise of this country is in full swing, between outsourcing and automation we will slowly wither to a third world nation. just look around.!!! what a great future the next gens have coming..
just look at al the recalls nowdays, big corp will screw the average consumer more and more and more, as time passes.. we are screwed up the yin yang..!!!
Is this what they are teaching at Virginia Tech? I have friends that go there and this type of thinking seems like a trend. As for the OP's points, yes it is a positive from an economic standpoint, but what do you think will happen if the U.S. keeps sending jobs overseas because of their lower wages? There will be less jobs. Less jobs equals less spending money. Less spending money means businesses will end up closing down or moving out of the U.S. market and moving to other markets.
In order to make up for this, it means we either have to create more jobs in the U.S., lower wages to almost slave labor in the U.S., or more Americans have to LEAVE the U.S. in order to find work. Some of the Generation Y Americans who graduated during the recession are leaving the U.S. for countries such as China and India to find work. Not everyone is doing this, but quite a few are leaving because they can make more money in China teaching English or working in other jobs than they can remaining unemployed in the U.S. It's not easy, but some will make the move if it means finding work:
Yes, scream about how horrible China's government is and how they don't believe in freedom, but people who are unemployed or underemployed normally care more about affording food and shelter than they do about blind patriotism. Don't get me wrong, I like America, but I know tons of talented people throughout Gen-Y, Gen-X, and a few Baby Boomers who are mad right now that American jobs are being sent overseas instead of brought back home to help the American people.
How do you propose to bring those jobs back here? Surely government ownership of manufacturing plants won't be your method?
you cant be serious.. outsourcing is bad for the country as a whole,,it will benefit only a few greedy bastards that don't give a crap about the average joe.. the demise of this country is in full swing, between outsourcing and automation we will slowly wither to a third world nation. just look around.!!! what a great future the next gens have coming..
just look at al the recalls nowdays, big corp will screw the average consumer more and more and more, as time passes.. we are screwed up the yin yang..!!!
Is it greedy to want to lower costs? You are insane.
How do you propose to bring those jobs back here? Surely government ownership of manufacturing plants won't be your method?
Actually, the government already thought of a way to do that. They raise taxes on companies which send jobs overseas and gives tax breaks on companies which move their jobs back to the U.S. Unfortunately, that bill was shot down b/c the Republicans claimed it was a "political stunt" while a few of the conservative Democrats said it would "cause America to be less competitive in the global market".
Yes, we're taught to be free-thinkers. We're taught not to suck the Government teet. We're taught that, as Americans, we are no longer competing with other Americans, we are competing with the world. We're taught that we have to continuously update our "skill set" to remain competitive.
Instead of complaining about the middle class, OH GOD THE MIDDLE CLASS IS SUFFERING KILL THE RICH PEOPLE, I've been working on my CPA license, becoming tri-lingual, and losing weight/eating healthy so I can be more self-reliant. It's really quite easy. And I did it without my mommy, daddy or Obama telling me to.
Skill set doesn't matter if the people in Indian and China have the same exact skills as you except for lower wages. Why do you think we're losing so many jobs? It's not b/c we are not talented. It's because the U.S. companies are taking advantage of the poor in other nations, who are as skilled as most of us, while creating less jobs in the U.S. So, unless you start your own business--or learn to speak Mandarin or Urudu as one of your trilingual languages--then best of luck to you.
Skill set doesn't matter if the people in Indian and China have the same exact skills as you except for lower wages. Why do you think we're losing so many jobs? It's not b/c we are not talented. It's because the U.S. companies are taking advantage of the poor in other nations, who are as skilled as most of us, while creating less jobs in the U.S. So, unless you start your own business--or learn to speak Mandarin or Urudu as one of your trilingual languages--then best of luck to you.
Yes it does. Indians and Chinese people can't be practicing CPAs, nor can they get security clearances. I'm good, thanks.
Actually, the government already thought of a way to do that. They raise taxes on companies which send jobs overseas and gives tax breaks on companies which move their jobs back to the U.S. Unfortunately, that bill was shot down b/c the Republicans claimed it was a "political stunt" while a few of the conservative Democrats said it would "cause America to be less competitive in the global market".
So raise taxes on companies so that they will be encouraged to move as much as possible overseas, and then give tax breaks to corporations who don't want to be here in the first place because labor costs are too high. Got it...oh and I thought the left was against tax breaks for corporations...uh oh.
Maybe I'm completely off here, but doesn't it make economic sense to hire people who will work more hours for less money? Why blame businesses for moving their business from a country that is full of ridiculous regulations and high taxes to a country with the opposite? This makes perfect sense to me
It sounds like the United States is simply losing its competitive edge, if it's going to take so much regulation and restriction to keep jobs here. Maybe we should address the real problem and not the fruits of the problem.
poison drywall toxic cabinets and home fixtures,toxic furniture that leaves skin disorders, lead in childrens toys and other products,melimine in food and man other things illegal to produce here but legal to import by greedy business owners
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I'm good, thanks.
