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Old 12-18-2010, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Why specifically Spanish? Another boring European language.I think learning an Asian language like Mandarin Chinese would be more advantageous for a child in the long run career/business wise, plus it's non Latin alphabet based so much more intellectually stimulating. At least give the kid a choice if you are going to mandate it.
Spanish is probably the second most widely spoken language in our country, though Mandarin is the most spoken language in the world, even surpassing English.
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Old 12-18-2010, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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I don't think "immersion" is necessary in learning a second language.

Funny thing, last week, I found myself dreaming in Spanish. That's strange, since I generally think in English, and translate it to Spanish fairly quickly...but I'm still thinking in English. But when I woke up, I found that I had someone clicked on the Spanish language channel (channel 6) on my TV while I was sleeping.
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Old 12-18-2010, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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It should be mandatory that all high school math & science teachers must have an advanced degree, and not just a BA or a teaching credential; it's a megacollosal disgrace that they do not.
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Old 12-18-2010, 09:56 AM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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It should be mandatory that all high school math & science teachers must have an advanced degree, and not just a BA or a teaching credential; it's a megacollosal disgrace that they do not.
Then taxpayers must pay them more.
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:08 AM
 
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I don't think our failures in math in science are because children were learning foreign languages instead. (If only...)

A combination of failure to support kids at home, a fast-food / easy answer culture, poor teaching and poor educational infrastructure are all failing our kids. NOT Spanish class.
I think so. The schools along the border where Spanish is very much required in the schools are lagging terribly behind.
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:10 AM
 
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It should be mandatory that all high school math & science teachers must have an advanced degree, and not just a BA or a teaching credential; it's a megacollosal disgrace that they do not.
That would be politically correct. In order to teach math and science in Spanish, you have to emphasize Spanish first. They bring in teachers from Mexico and Central America now and have them teaching math and science in Spanglish.

And our kids are falling fast behind the children in first world countries.
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Old 12-18-2010, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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But are kids learning how to do it longhand...or using shortcuts like calculators and computers to GIVE them the answer?

[referring to math]

Whether it's English OR Spanish, people need to learn how to spell and how to put together a sentence correctly.
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Old 12-18-2010, 11:23 AM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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We are falling woefully behind the rest of the world in the disciplines of math and the sciences. This spells disaster for the future of this nation's economy and our children. What is the solution to this problem? Apparently it is Spanish Immersion!

My brother in-law lives in the San Francisco area and many of the top schools out there are adopting a curriculum that includes: 50% of all classes be taught in Spanish.
My wife sits on the board of a charter school here in Boston and their curriculum mandates K-12 Spanish. They don't even give the kids the option of another language.

Is there any doubt that this is the product of liberal lunacy?
I have been through the San Fransisco Unified School District website and cannot find any mandatory 50% Spanish Immersion requirements. The SFUSD does offer optional immersion programs including immersion programs in Cantonese, Korean, Mandarin, and Spanish - and a non immersion program in Japanese. Damned liberals - ramming choices down our throats.

San Francisco' Unified School District
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Old 12-18-2010, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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I have been through the San Fransisco Unified School District website and cannot find any mandatory 50% Spanish Immersion requirements. The SFUSD does offer optional immersion programs including immersion programs in Cantonese, Korean, Mandarin, and Spanish - and a non immersion program in Japanese. Damned liberals - ramming choices down our throats.

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It's actually Burlingame and I didn't say that that was the mandatory example.
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Old 12-18-2010, 12:50 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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It's actually Burlingame and I didn't say that that was the mandatory example.
If it's not mandatory then what's the issue and why is it "liberal lunacy"?

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My brother in-law lives in the San Francisco area and many of the top schools out there are adopting a curriculum that includes: 50% of all classes be taught in Spanish.
That worded like it's "mandatory".

http://www.bsd.k12.ca.us/
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Italian, Spanish, and Mandarin classes are part of an after-school enrichment program offered by the Burlingame Recreation Center
BIS offers Italian, Spanish and Mandarin classes to 7th and 8th graders
A Spanish immersion class is offered at McKinley School
Damned liberals.
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