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View Poll Results: What are we set to be over time?
Socially liberal, fiscally liberal 8 14.04%
Socially conservative, fiscally liberal 5 8.77%
Socially liberal, fiscally conservative 11 19.30%
Socially conservative, fiscally conservative 4 7.02%
Socially liberal, anything is possible with the economy 7 12.28%
Socially conservative, anything is possible with the economy 2 3.51%
Fiscally liberal, anything is possible socially 1 1.75%
Fiscally conservative, anything is possible socially 4 7.02%
Anything can happen, both socially and fiscally 15 26.32%
Voters: 57. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-19-2010, 11:29 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Is America inevitably going to head in one direction? Do you feel we're destined to become more liberal or more conservative? Or do you feel things will always change based on the situation we face?

I'd make a safe prediction. We've obviously become more socially liberal over the years. More lack of religion, for example. Look at where homosexuality and abortion were years ago with public opinion, and where they are now.

I'd say fiscally, it's always going to be up in the air.
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Old 12-20-2010, 02:06 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I'd say you need to re-work your post so it is comprehensible. I don't want to have to make error corrections and inferences and respond to what I think (or hope) you meant.

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Old 12-20-2010, 02:10 AM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Where's the box in that survey for: anarchy, anarchy, anarchy.
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Old 12-20-2010, 02:42 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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One cannot be socially liberal and fiscally conservative. That is an oxymoron. If one is socially liberal, then they must also be fiscally liberal or be hypocrites - claiming to be for social programs but unwilling to fund them. Conversely, someone who is socially conservative will not be fiscally liberal.

The past is the best indicator of the future. Whether we like it or not, the nation has become far more socially and fiscally liberal over the last 8 decades. The nation will not survive another 80 years of liberal social and fiscal policies.
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Old 12-20-2010, 02:59 AM
 
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Is America inevitably going to head in one direction? Do you feel we're destined to become more liberal or more conservative? Or do you feel things will always change based on the situation we face?

I'd make a safe prediction. We've obviously become more socially liberal over the years. More lack of religion, for example. Look at where homosexuality and abortion were years ago with public opinion, and where they are now.

I'd say fiscally, it's always going to be up in the air.
Social liberal fiscal conservative is wishful thinking on my part. There are too many horrific economic realities threatening the constitution right now. There is a very real possibility it will not survive the malevolence inflicted upon it from within.
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Old 12-20-2010, 03:03 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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One cannot be socially liberal and fiscally conservative. That is an oxymoron. If one is socially liberal, then they must also be fiscally liberal or be hypocrites - claiming to be for social programs but unwilling to fund them. Conversely, someone who is socially conservative will not be fiscally liberal.

The past is the best indicator of the future. Whether we like it or not, the nation has become far more socially and fiscally liberal over the last 8 decades. The nation will not survive another 80 years of liberal social and fiscal policies.
You are wrong, of course, but that is because of your bias. The nation will not survive even 10 years of conservative backlash to supposed liberal fiscal policies. The 8 years previous to the last two saw a Republican government rip 2 Trillion dollars from the middle class and hand it to the top 1% where it promptly disappeared into a financial Black Hole of non-liquid assets. Half the country's wealth is frozen in non-liquid assets. But y'all go ahead. Attempt to redress 80 years of social conscience with wanton disregard for humanity. I will be watching the riots and bonfires from a foreign vantage.

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Old 12-20-2010, 03:10 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Not on the poll...Financially insolvent.
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Old 12-20-2010, 05:34 AM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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Not on the poll...Financially insolvent.
Also not up there:

Socially responsible and fiscally responsible
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Old 12-20-2010, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Dublin, CA
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I've predicted it before, so here goes:

As someone else said, this country cannot continue to be socially liberal and financially liberal. If it continues in this vain, we will find a reason to default on our loans to China. Personally, I already belive the foundation is being laid, with the problems going on between North and South Korea (China backs the north).

If the United States continues on its present course of running such large deficits, we will go to war with China. It will be the only way to get out of the financial mess we are in. More wars have been fought over money and about money, throughout history, then for any other reason(s) combined.

Those who ignore history, are doomed to repeat it.
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Old 12-20-2010, 06:31 AM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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I've predicted it before, so here goes:

As someone else said, this country cannot continue to be socially liberal and financially liberal. If it continues in this vain, we will find a reason to default on our loans to China. Personally, I already belive the foundation is being laid, with the problems going on between North and South Korea (China backs the north).

If the United States continues on its present course of running such large deficits, we will go to war with China. It will be the only way to get out of the financial mess we are in. More wars have been fought over money and about money, throughout history, then for any other reason(s) combined.

Those who ignore history, are doomed to repeat it.
There will be no war. This government will capitulate and simply turn over enormous assets (Western States) willingly to avoid such conflict. The weakening of our military has already begun by the Start Treaty. What do you think the loss of 50% of strategic defense will produce? Peace?
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