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Old 12-21-2010, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Kinda like the armchair Generals here who support war(s) as the first solution, just as long as they aren't required to get off their ass nand do something.
Absolutely!
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Whew, so there are only 15.7 million terrorists? What a relief.
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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But guess what? BECK WAS RIGHT! According to World Public Opinion, you know the organization whose results are being used on this very forum to show how "misinformed" FOX news viewers are.

Once again, BECK WAS RIGHT! Read the link.

Stu Blog (http://www.glennbeck.com/content/blog/stu/?p=1167 - broken link)
Awe crap, so its closer to 200,000,000 Muslims who support terrorists murdering innocent Americans, and about 800,000,000 who support killing our troops in Afghanistan?
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Old 12-21-2010, 02:14 PM
 
Location: NE CT
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Using the Glenn Beck method of reasoning, or lack there of, lets take another example of using statistics to distort and market an idea for personal consumption.

In the United States, 86%+- of our population is Christian. So, of the millions of crimes, murders, theft, rape, incest, and violent acts which take place every single day, we can then by using the Beck method of calculation, imply that Christians are 85% of all incestuous rapist, murders, thieves, child molester, etc... Since we have the highest or second highest prison population on the planet, we can there for conclude that Christians are the most violent, child molesting, raping, sick distorted religious people on the planet. After all, think of all those who rediscover Jesus in prison, it seems prison and Jesus go hand in hand.

Boy, that don't sound too good does it. It is statistically accurate and yet does it really encapsulate the truth?

This analogy's wheels fall off when one realizes that Christians do not support what you say they support. If you can show us the statistics that 85% of Christians support what you say they do, by all means show it or your analogy is meaningless.

Beck showed you that people who supported terrorism are in the millions and therefore are part of the problem. Show us how many Christians support what you say they do with statistics please. Have fun finding them.

GB is constantly villified because he has such a great following and it scares the living hell out of the misinformed liberal leftists in this country. They are using all of their energy to sail our government into failure of the redistribution of wealth, increase of entitlements, statism, and the totalitarianism of this once free country.

The only way to prevent this is to expose the leaders and funding of this trend and Beck does a terrific job of bringing their evil ways into the sunshine for all to see and understand what is happening in this country today.
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Old 12-21-2010, 02:24 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The only way to prevent this is to expose the leaders and funding of this trend and Beck does a terrific job of bringing their evil ways into the sunshine for all to see and understand what is happening in this country today.
And how often does he do it with fact rather than opinion?

In the article starting this thread he's quoted as saying "I think it's closer to 10 percent"

This should be taken as meaningful because?
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Old 12-21-2010, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Using the Glenn Beck method of reasoning, or lack there of, lets take another example of using statistics to distort and market an idea for personal consumption.

In the United States, 86%+- of our population is Christian. So, of the millions of crimes, murders, theft, rape, incest, and violent acts which take place every single day, we can then by using the Beck method of calculation, imply that Christians are 85% of all incestuous rapist, murders, thieves, child molester, etc... Since we have the highest or second highest prison population on the planet, we can there for conclude that Christians are the most violent, child molesting, raping, sick distorted religious people on the planet. After all, think of all those who rediscover Jesus in prison, it seems prison and Jesus go hand in hand.

Boy, that don't sound too good does it. It is statistically accurate and yet does it really encapsulate the truth?
Assuming you are correct, the difference is that the Christians in that 86% are not using Christianity as the basis for committing their crimes, the Islamist terrorists are using Islam as the basis for theirs.
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Old 12-21-2010, 02:47 PM
 
Location: NE CT
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And how often does he do it with fact rather than opinion?

In the article starting this thread he's quoted as saying "I think it's closer to 10 percent"

This should be taken as meaningful because?
So he has an opinion. Beck constantly challenges anyone to debunk his facts when he states facts on his show. He has invited anyone who is willing to debate him like George Soros, Van Jones, and many other leftists radicals, but they never show up. That says it all to me.
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Old 12-21-2010, 03:06 PM
 
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. The number is confirmed by a scientific poll conducted by World Public Opinion. It is not based on statistical calculations. Please read the link.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi..._Feb09_rpt.pdf

Here is a direct link to WPO (World Public Opinion) whose mission is to give a voice "to public opinion around the world." Note that the "opinions" being polled and reported are those of the people being polled, not those of Beck or anyone else.

WPO.org is a project managed by the program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland, as reported on the link. The Board of Advisors includes people from Columbia University, Northwestern University, Georgetown University, U.S. Naval War College as well as University of Maryland, et.al.

Valid, accurate study? Seems to have some respected people behind it. (If anything I would suspect them of being slanted to the more liberal side if at all.) Although I don't think I participated in it, there was recently a very long thread using the research of WPO to show FOX newswatchers were the most misinformed. So, obviously there are many on these boards who find WPO reputable since they consistently sited this research. In any event, this study is worth reading and thinking about. There are many other topics polled of the people in Muslim Countries that pertain to issues such as what they perceive the goal of the U.S. presence in their countries is and their views on Sharia Law. Worth reading.
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Old 12-21-2010, 03:09 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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So he has an opinion. Beck constantly challenges anyone to debunk his facts when he states facts on his show. He has invited anyone who is willing to debate him like George Soros, Van Jones, and many other leftists radicals, but they never show up. That says it all to me.
And your failure to answer just how often he states fact rather than opinion says it all to me.
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Old 12-21-2010, 03:15 PM
 
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And how often does he do it with fact rather than opinion?

In the article starting this thread he's quoted as saying "I think it's closer to 10 percent"

This should be taken as meaningful because?
Because it is backed up by fact; i.e., the scientific poll conducted by WPO which showed the number of people living in Muslim Countries who approved of attacks on U.S. civilians in the U.S.

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi..._Feb09_rpt.pdf

Please read the link. It is lengthy but very informative and not just on this one issue.
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