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Social Security should be cut; along with Medicare and every single other federal/state entitlement program, until a handle on this debt can be found. I cannot stand Obummer, however I'd applaud him as doing the right thing IF, he actually did cut Social Security. Will never happen, however, I'd give him kudos if he did it.
I agree, amazingly! The long term solutions will be difficult and should include all Entitlements as well as Defense. Of course there is the need for adults to be elected, so that those conversations can take place.
So when Obama suggests it, they are adults.. When the GOP suggests the same exact thing, they are not?
So when Obama suggests it, they are adults.. When the GOP suggests the same exact thing, they are not?
The Deficit Commission was Obama's. He had to do that because the Senate Repubs refused to establish one in the Senate. But, that is beside the point. There is a need to elect adult Democrats and adult Repubs to Congress. That has yet to be accomplished.
Said it before and I'll say it again. Only a fool depends on the gov. I honestly doubt that any institution is worse at managing money than a gov.
Cut SS but send billions in aid every year to countries who dont even like us.
Cut SS but waste billions on pork.
Cut SS but put billions into the UN coffers.
Cut SS pay out million dollar bonuses to wall street fat cats. Yep the gov has our back.
The Deficit Commission was Obama's. He had to do that because the Senate Repubs refused to establish one in the Senate. But, that is beside the point. There is a need to elect adult Democrats and adult Repubs to Congress. That has yet to be accomplished.
The adult thing to do be responsible for what you are responsible for. That would be the Republicans calling for CONGRESS to be responsible, not the president. They after its CONGRESS who write the budget
Do you really think it was adult like for a Democratic Congress to increase the debt all year waiting for the debt commission report by over a Trillion dollars? Do you think it was adult like to not pass a budget AT ALL, which is what the Democrats did?
Sorry, only a child delegates their responsibilities to others and sticks their fingers in their ear while the deficit skyrockets, which is what the Democratic Congress did.. so spare me the bs about who the adult is, especially considering they are simply rehashing the cuts that were called for by the GOP ages ago..
Right wingers your prayers are answered, you have a President willing to go along as you seek to dismantle middle class benefits.
""Republicans win three ways. They have a Democratic president doing their work for them, destroying the Democratic capacity to use affirmative government to address dire national problems and annihilating his own party.""
Psst.....I have something to tell you: WE WON, YOU LOST. DEAL WITH IT. Yup, our prayers have definitely been answered.
The most frightening phrase in that post? "Affirmative government".
2. If he's referring to raising the retirement age then that would be a good thing.
People are living longer, and I'd rather work till 70 and get social security than to not get anything at all. Its really quite hard to make out what he's talking about specifically about social security when its not even talked about in the article.
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Originally Posted by padcrasher
Easy to tell you don't know anything about SS.
1 Raising the retirement age to 69 represent a 15% cut in benefits.
You''re too stingy to support a small raise the SS tax now so you'll have your kids and grandkids have their benefits cut.
2. Saying "not getting anything at all" is so far off the mark it's obvious you know nothing about the financials....
If we do NOTHING we still get 78% of benefits starting in 2037.
That's not "nothing at all"...
Show me in the above post where I said anything about opposing raising social security payroll tax. Please.
I have no problem with a slight raise in payroll tax for social security AND raising the retirement age to 70.
And I'm 31, so I've got a long time before I'd retire. I'm ok with that.
It will be nothing at all, let me explain.
If we do nothing to curb our spending over the next four years, our credit rating will be lowerd from the AAA rating it is now. This means we'll have to pay out a higher interest rate on the money we borrow. This would make us have to pay 1 trillion dollars in interest alone every year to keep up with our budget. Entitlements is a huge part of that pie. I want military spending cut a lot, I think it should make up 50% of the deficit cuts we need. But 25% from entitlements and 25% from tax increases would make up for the rest. Social security raising the retirement age would make up 15% of the total deficit over the next 30 years.
If our credit rating goes to crap, we'll have to make more cuts, which means possibly the extinction of social security. If you can't pay for it, you can't have it.
Obama's Next Cave In To GOP: Cuts In Social Security Coming
yeah, what's up with that?
we should just keep kicking the can down the road, creating more programs, promising more entitlemnts, expanding government bureaucracy, enabling more dependency...
yeah, that's it! that's the answer!
Expenses for the Social Security program will exceed tax receipts beginning in 2016., now 0bama is reducing the payroll deduction for SS by 2%, the democratic party controlled congress has increased the national debt by $6 trillion, added a new health care entitlement to compete with funds for SS, and this thread is about republicans?
You are correct, the dems refuse to address SS, we know it will exceed its funding in a few years, and yet any talk about how to save it is met with hoots and catcalls from the dems. Then we get threads from their partisan airheads supporters hooting and catcalling.
Expenses for the Social Security program will exceed tax receipts beginning in 2016., now 0bama is reducing the payroll deduction for SS by 2%, the democratic party controlled congress has increased the national debt by $6 trillion, added a new health care entitlement to compete with funds for SS, and this thread is about republicans?
You are correct, the dems refuse to address SS, we know it will exceed its funding in a few years, and yet any talk about how to save it is met with hoots and catcalls from the dems. Then we get threads from their partisan airheads supporters hooting and catcalling.
Republicans pushed for 80% of the trillion dollars we just went deeper into debt for. I disagree with the lowering of social security taxes when its already in a hole, but lets face facts, both parties have screwed the pooch here.
Right wingers your prayers are answered, you have a President willing to go along as you seek to dismantle middle class benefits.
""Republicans win three ways. They have a Democratic president doing their work for them, destroying the Democratic capacity to use affirmative government to address dire national problems and annihilating his own party.""
Yep. Obama is doing the Republicans dirty work for them. And when or if there are cuts in SS, it will be the Democrats who will be blamed. Obama is a callous fool.
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