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So answer this, Napalitano and Brennan both knew about this but could not tell him quickly?
1. Neither Napolitano nor Brennan have any responsibility to brief him. He has a staff for that.
2. He and Brennan were even on the same interview, and the subject had been apparently so unimportant that they hadn't even talked about it leading up to the interview.
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The staff knew, but the boss did not? Hummmmm makes me wonder why you got out at 9 years? Either passed over for Major numerous times, or just plain quit.
I have no idea what planet you're from, but on this one the minimum time in service for a below-the-zone promotion to major is 10 years with three years in grade as an O-3. So, it's rather clear that I was never passed up for Major once, let alone multiple times.
That said... yes. Staffs often know what the boss does not. That's among the reasons you have them.
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I agree, I did not read the quote. Happy, I agree with you...
I'm generally pretty happy whether you agree with me or not.
Let me make it easier for the delusional and disingenuous partisan hacks of America.
What did Georgie Bush Jr. and Dick Cheney know of the London Bombings of July 7th 2005?
Why didn't they know? How could they be so incompetent to allow that to happen?
With such celebrated incompetence as arranged by George Bush Jr.'s and Dick Cheney's inability to judge prospective administrators; our enemies knew it was the right time to strike.
What a pair, throw in thier Republican lap dogs and you had a Royal Flush of corruption, greed, fascism, dishonesty and stupidity; but still a losing hand.
Jebus, he wasn't asked what he knew about it before the arrests, and if he had been, he shouldn't have answered. If Bush or an intelligence underling hadn't known about the 2005 bombings AFTER they happened, of course that would have been appalling. You're being ridiculous and/or desperately deflecting
I guess everybody but you disagree that he should have been.
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Originally Posted by HistorianDude
1. Neither Napolitano nor Brennan have any responsibility to brief him. He has a staff for that..
Team work...LOVE IT!!!!
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2. He and Brennan were even on the same interview, and the subject had been apparently so unimportant that they hadn't even talked about it leading up to the interview.
So a quick hey, what do you think about the .....but wait....his cronies BRIEFED them....
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I have no idea what planet you're from, but on this one the minimum time in service for a below-the-zone promotion to major is 10 years with three years in grade as an O-3. So, it's rather clear that I was never passed up for Major once, let alone multiple times
That said... yes. Staffs often know what the boss does not. That's among the reasons you have them....
Well since you are quoting in the zone times....I have posted the actual times...and note that below the zone is 9 years, not 10 as you say....which means you could have been passed over....and booted....BUt that does not surprise me you don't know what your talking about....
There are basically three promotion opportunities: Below-the-Zone, In-the-Zone, and Above-the-Zone. Below-the-Zone only applies for promotion to the rank of O-4 to O-6. One year before they would be eligible for In-the-Zone consideration, up to 10 percent of those recommended can be promoted Below-the-Zone.
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I'm generally pretty happy whether you agree with me or not.
I guess everybody but you disagree that he should have been.
Perhaps you should look up the word "everybody." Because your statement isn't true for the participants of this thread let alone any wider community of commentators.
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So a quick hey, what do you think about the .....but wait....his cronies BRIEFED them....
I have no idea what you were trying to say there. Want to try again?
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Originally Posted by chucksnee
Well since you are quoting in the zone times....I have posted the actual times...and note that below the zone is 9 years, not 10 as you say....which means you could have been passed over....and booted....BUt that does not surprise me you don't know what your talking about....
At nine years I only had one year in grade as an O-3. And 3 years in grade as an O-3 is (by the way) a statutory requirement which cannot be flexed for a below the zone promotion. So, no, I couldn't have been "passed over."
And you also don't get "booted" until you've been passed over for "above the zone" promotion... i.e. you've been passed over three times.
So... who here doesn't know what he's talking about? Again?
Perhaps you should look up the word "everybody." Because your statement isn't true for the participants of this thread let alone any wider community of commentators.
Everybody that counts....the administration, Brennen, Big Sis, the sycophantic media. So, I think we can put to rest that this WAS a big deal the guy sat there with his finger up his ......nose.
Obviously, he should have known. You can continue to spin til you're blue in the face, it won't change that FACT.
Yes, his staff failed him on this account given they should have anticipated the questions he would be asked in this interview. In addition, he would receive intelligence briefings at least once a day and likely, more than once a day. It's a bit of the buck stops here with burueacracy. Yes, delegation of duties means you are not involved in each and every detail. However, that does not absolve you of defining the method and means your staff uses to brief you on information. Were this a minor incident, it could be understandable. However, it was not and since his staff failed him, he has failed. That's the way it works. He gets to take credit when his staff performs well and thus has to take the hit when they do not.
Aaahhhh. I see. By "everybody" you actually meant "some mostly ambiguous categories of people." I thought as much.
I did look up the word "everybody" and your definition is not there...So you are saying what...what you say is correct? HA HA HA HA
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No. We can't. It actually was no big deal.
I bet the guy who taught a person to fly a plane straight and level and not worry about take offs or landings also "at that time" thought it was no big deal...until later....
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He should have known eventually. And he does.
Your opinion, and after being made a fool of of on national TV, even on a LW TV show....
Anyway...since you cannot comprehend what I'm saying (and that is obvious) means that I am wrong....Really.......your thought of thinking is exactly why this guy was made a fool of...nothing more and nothing less..
I did look up the word "everybody" and your definition is not there...So you are saying what...what you say is correct?
That wasn't my definition. You fail again.
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I bet the guy who taught a person to fly a plane straight and level and not worry about take offs or landings also "at that time" thought it was no big deal...until later....
And he would have been wrong.
But since that incident bears no resemblance to what we are discussing, here, your point remains lost on those who actually expect arguments to make sense.
Aaahhhh. I see. By "everybody" you actually meant "some mostly ambiguous categories of people." I thought as much.
No. We can't. It actually was no big deal.
He should have known eventually. And he does.
Again, still, proven wrong. Seems it WAS a big deal. even though you're the only one claiming it wasn't, even going against what the administration says.
U.S. Embassy in London Was Terror Target
State Department Confirms American Embassy in London Was Target of British Terror Plotters
So it seems you are wrong on more than if it was a BIG DEAL, but also that it was indeed an issue for the homeland. Can't wait for the spin.
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