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Old 12-25-2010, 11:32 AM
 
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Jesus wasn't a communist like Obama and the Democrats, he was a Savior... Not that Obama doesn't think he is the Messiah!

Jesus's dad was a successful small businessman as a carpenter.
The Democrats are like Caesar telling people how to live, where to go, when you will turn over your personal wealth and probably how you will DIE with Obama-care.

He used to hang out with self-employed fishermen, too.

No fish, no shekels, kinda lifestyle.
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Old 12-25-2010, 11:48 AM
 
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Answering a research study honestly and reporting charitable donations on your taxes is NOT bragging. It's called being honest.
My posts never criticized anyone for taking a tax deduction or answering a survey. When a person uses the information to insult people who they feel aren't like them, it is ONLY about bragging and insulting others, it's not Christian behavior in my book. If a person can feel good about that, more power to them, that's their right in our free country, but I refuse to keep going on about it. I find that sort of behavior tacky, it only makes the person posting it look insecure and incredibly childish. I'm interested in more intelligent discussions.

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Old 12-25-2010, 11:49 AM
 
Location: In the desert
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Christianity encourages us to give to charity, not for government to force us to redistribute it. Plus Christianity promotes traditional family values. Fiscal liberalism by it's very nature destroys traditional values. Christianity promotes marriage, not for women to have out of wedlock children by varoius bad boys and then have the taxpayers) support her and her b*stards through government handouts.
Christianity also does not TEACH one to believe that those who need help are 'lazy, worthless sponges that get money for nothing' in order to feel superior & better about one's own life.
Would you call a self employed woman's children "bas***ds" if she is not married the the father?
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Old 12-25-2010, 11:54 AM
 
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Christianity also does not TEACH one to believe that those who need help are 'lazy, worthless sponges that get money for nothing' in order to feel superior & better about one's own life.
Would you call a self employed woman's children "bas***ds" if she is not married the the father?

To read many of the posts here one might believe Christianity is ONLY about about how superior and better they are. It's a sad representation, it makes Christians look bad to those who don't know better.
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Old 12-25-2010, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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The majority of Christians in this nation are Democrats not Republicans especially when you account for Hispanics and African Americans. The group you are referring to are Evangelicals which are a type of Christian. I consider Evangelicals to be their own denomination like Mormons, Jehovas Witnesses etc. They support Republicans because many Republican social agenda agrees with those espoused by Evangelicals.
I assume you have statistics backing this up, yes?
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Old 12-25-2010, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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My posts never criticized anyone for taking a tax deduction or answering a survey. When a person uses the information to insult people who they feel aren't like them, it is ONLY about bragging and insulting others, it's not Christian behavior in my book. If a person can feel good about that, more power to them, that's their right in our free country, but I refuse to keep going on about it. I find that sort of behavior tacky, it only makes the person posting it look insecure and incredibly childish. I'm interested in more intelligent discussions.
Then how about you don't try to say someone is bragging when they point out a fact about the difference between liberals and conservatives? The whole thread is about people who are Christian being Republicans, and one thing led to another and the topic became conservative Christians giving to charity. Nobody is saying one person or group is better than the other based on charitable giving. You might view it as bragging, but obviously others don't. It's not really the big deal you're making it out to be. If you have such a problem with it, but you believe it's "childish" and are looking for "more intelligent discussions," then don't keep commenting about it.
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Old 12-25-2010, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Christianity also does not TEACH one to believe that those who need help are 'lazy, worthless sponges that get money for nothing' in order to feel superior & better about one's own life.
Would you call a self employed woman's children "bas***ds" if she is not married the the father?
Nobody said that. Yet again, you are painting with a broad brush in regard to people's opinions on the poor.

Remember that Jesus also said that those who don't work, don't eat.

The second part has nothing to do with this topic.
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Old 12-25-2010, 01:07 PM
 
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Then how about you don't try to say someone is bragging when they point out a fact about the difference between liberals and conservatives? The whole thread is about people who are Christian being Republicans, and one thing led to another and the topic became conservative Christians giving to charity. Nobody is saying one person or group is better than the other based on charitable giving. You might view it as bragging, but obviously others don't. It's not really the big deal you're making it out to be. If you have such a problem with it, but you believe it's "childish" and are looking for "more intelligent discussions," then don't keep commenting about it.
You keep replying to my posts, in each case I've just stated my opinion, which I have a right to. You've stated yours, which you have a right to, lets move on now.
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Old 12-25-2010, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Columbus
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This is true jesus would not side with Obama or the democrats, they are far too right to adhere to Jesus' views.
To respond to your comments, here are a few passages.
Timothy 6:17 "Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment. Command them to do good, to be rich in good deeds, and to be generous and willing to share. In this way they will lay up treasure for themselves as a firm foundation for the coming age, so that they may take hold of the life that is truly life."

Galatains 6:2 "Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ."

From these passages, it further conforms in the eyes of the lord we should find happiness in god, not in wealth. Those that have wealth are to carry other's burdens so they can as well excel in life. These are far left liberal stances.
Where is the evidence that it is the liberal policy to find happiness in God and not in wealth?

Does "carry each other's burden's" mean pay an enormous tax rate and let the govt decide what to do with the money? Or does it mean help people less fortunate. And not necesarily just monetarily? Last time I checked "burden" is not synonymous with "tax" or "money".

And where is the evidence that it is liberal policy to "carry each other's burden's" anyway? Or did you just find some pretty sounding verses and say that is what liberals believe?

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Old 12-25-2010, 04:31 PM
 
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Christianity also does not TEACH one to believe that those who need help are 'lazy, worthless sponges that get money for nothing' in order to feel superior & better about one's own life.
Would you call a self employed woman's children "bas***ds" if she is not married the the father?
Yes they technically would be..that is the definition of the word. Although I would give her credit for being self-employed, in particular if she isn't getting government handouts of any kind.

I don't criticize single mothers on welfare to feel superior. I strongly feel children are better off being raised by two stable, loving parents. Studies have consistently shown that children and better adjusted and have less dysfunction when raised by two parents. I believe that welfare encourages lower socioeconomic women to choose bad boy types who end up being deadbeat dads. I appreciate Christianity, especially the more conservative churches for promoting traditional family values.
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