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Old 12-30-2010, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Nobody said that. Yet again, you are painting with a broad brush in regard to people's opinions on the poor.

Remember that Jesus also said that those who don't work, don't eat.

The second part has nothing to do with this topic.
No, Jesus did not say that. Paul wrote that in his second letter to the Thessalonians.

Very discouraging how many so-called Christians cannot distinguish between the two.
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Old 12-30-2010, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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That's your interpretation. But if you take a more literal interpretation of the words written...it seems to suggest that you should not be hoarding wealth above what you need to survive. Jesus clearly didn't amass wealth, did he?

This is what I love about religion... anyone can take those arcane words from some old book and twist them into whatever in the world they want it to mean in order to validate their lifestyle and prevent them from having to do anything differently.
No. As a matter of fact:



Acts 4:32,34-35 (NIV) All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they had... There were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned lands or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles' feet, and it was distributed to anyone as he had need.
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Old 12-30-2010, 02:22 PM
 
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jesus never said anything about abortion, and gays.. yet it is the most polarizing topics with christians...

they foam at the mouth at the thought of an abortion happening or "the gays" marrying...

if you don't think religion isn't politicized in this country... you're not paying attention..
organized religion is about power.. controlling the masses...
Thats right every Sunday I go to Church to get my marching orders.
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Old 12-30-2010, 02:26 PM
 
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Surely anti government people are highly disturbed about Jesus saying "Render unto Caesar what is his."
Not at all, its the,"what is his " part that is debatable. We believe in paying our taxes....one must go to the Constitution to find what really is Caesars.
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:19 PM
 
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This is a phenomenon I've never really understood is why those that are heavily christian, are also heavily republicans. If you really think about it besides abortion views, Jesus was a liberal. Not a leftest republican or democrat, but a full-blown green party tree hugging flaming liberal.
The teachings are about living frugally, to help the poor, to only live with what you need and give your unneeded wealth away. To open your doors to the needy and that greed is evil. Even how Jesus is depicted in looking, long hair, beard, sandals, pretty much exactly like hippies of the 60's.
It just seems to make sense that if you are a true follower of the bible, you would be a hardcore liberal, not a conservative.
Todays liberals are blatantly anti-Christian! While Jesus did spend time with prostitutes, gays, & tax collectors, he did not condone or embrace the behavior. Liberals (AKA democrats) promote, encourage, & endorse such behavior. But, they shy away from any mention of Christ because it might offend people.
If you think the current democratic party is a Christian party then you are mistaken. This ain't your grandfathers democratic party
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:41 PM
 
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Todays liberals are blatantly anti-Christian! While Jesus did spend time with prostitutes, gays, & tax collectors, he did not condone or embrace the behavior. Liberals (AKA democrats) promote, encourage, & endorse such behavior. But, they shy away from any mention of Christ because it might offend people.
If you think the current democratic party is a Christian party then you are mistaken. This ain't your grandfathers democratic party
I'd really hope this is a joke,...
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Old 12-31-2010, 10:17 AM
 
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I'd really hope this is a joke,...
It's not, many people are actually that ignorant.
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Old 12-31-2010, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Syracuse IS Central New York.
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Todays liberals are blatantly anti-Christian! While Jesus did spend time with prostitutes, gays, & tax collectors, he did not condone or embrace the behavior. Liberals (AKA democrats) promote, encourage, & endorse such behavior. But, they shy away from any mention of Christ because it might offend people.
If you think the current democratic party is a Christian party then you are mistaken. This ain't your grandfathers democratic party
LOL...I know a number of Christian pastors who are unashamedly Liberal and obviously do not shy away from Christ. Essentially, their beliefs are to love God with all your mind, body, and soul, and to love your neighbor as yourself, plus not judging the behavior of others as that is the job of the Lord.

Now as for the political issues, neither the Republican nor the Democratic Parties are a Christian party, nor should they be. While the Republicans like to wrap themselves in the trappings of Christianity, the Democrats are more likely to be actually following the teachings of Christ, especially in respect to the poor. But the truth still remains that neither is a Christian party, nor they should be as politics is a secular matter.
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Old 12-31-2010, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Glencoe, IL
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If you really think about it besides abortion views, Jesus was a liberal.

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Besides, he was a rebel against authority along the lines of Fidel Castro.
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Old 12-31-2010, 02:45 PM
 
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LOL...I know a number of Christian pastors who are unashamedly Liberal and obviously do not shy away from Christ. Essentially, their beliefs are to love God with all your mind, body, and soul, and to love your neighbor as yourself, plus not judging the behavior of others as that is the job of the Lord.

Now as for the political issues, neither the Republican nor the Democratic Parties are a Christian party, nor should they be. While the Republicans like to wrap themselves in the trappings of Christianity, the Democrats are more likely to be actually following the teachings of Christ, especially in respect to the poor. But the truth still remains that neither is a Christian party, nor they should be as politics is a secular matter.
Give me a break! Democrats love the poor with other people's money, not their own. Yes, I'm sure Jesus would approve. Look at John Kerry--shelling out millions for a yacht built overseas that he parks in Rhode Island in order to avoid paying the excise tax of the state he is supposed to represent.
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