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Old 12-29-2010, 09:40 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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I don't think this topic could be directed at a certain race, or a certain religion. There are those in life, who have come to be dependent on others, for their misfortunes. As long as their is ready help such as Welfare, this is better then no help at all. But what a sad way of thinking!~ Welfare is no option or should never be, when thinking of having a baby. It is hard enough in todays world, to take care of yourself, never mind a baby. Is this fair to the baby, but there is a class of People who are dependent on others, and as long as others are there to lend that welfare hand, these people will continue to have babies, and this vicious cycle shall continue.
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Old 12-29-2010, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Earth
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I can't understand why anyone breeds.
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:06 AM
 
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Biologically, whether poor or not, the male mates with the female. Babies are often seen as gifts from God even though the impetus of their creation is quite voluntary. So many just say it's God's work. A very difficult belief to argue to say the least. *****Warning...generalization to follow*****

In less educated, poorer places, the same biology takes place with less, or no, consideration for the long term challenges that come with children. More thought is usually given to the process in more affluent, educated places. Perhaps a reason why poorer areas, including so-called third world ones, have higher birth rates.

At the same time, affluence creates its own issues. Entitlement and priviledge often spoil the fruit so-to-speak. Welfare is only one aspect of this scenario.
The more children you have in the 3rd world, the better off you are. It's not the same. More help in the fields, more money from older children in the city, more chances for your child to go get an education.
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:08 AM
 
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Aren't conservatives that constantly "dis" the poor also "pro-life?" Stating, "If you can't feed do not breed," doesn't sound very pro-life now, does it?
Not all conservatives are the same. I consider having a child you can't afford and then collecting government handouts for 18 years to be worse than abortion. That being said abortion should not be used as birth control which is why I favor sterilization.

To those who jumped to the conclusion that my views are based on expecting perfection from everyone in the human race...you are wrong. Nobody's perfect and I don't expect them to be. That doesn't make it right for someone to bring a child into this world they can't afford and then have taxpayers (and the printing press) support the child. That is beyond imperfect, it is wrong and unethical on many different levels.
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:09 AM
 
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I always went to the Heath Department and got my pills for free.

The condoms were free too.
I wonder what the numbers of per capita are by income group as well as clinics per capita.
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Old 12-29-2010, 10:31 AM
 
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Not all conservatives are the same. I consider having a child you can't afford and then collecting government handouts for 18 years to be worse than abortion. That being said abortion should not be used as birth control which is why I favor sterilization.
I consider that to be rather barbaric to kill a human being simply because you don't want to pay for them.
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:22 PM
 
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I can't understand why anyone breeds.
Me either.....
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:23 PM
 
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I wonder what the numbers of per capita are by income group as well as clinics per capita.
Around here there is one in each county.
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Gone
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I recently read that there is a childhood poverty epedemic with 1 out of 5 U.S children living in poverty. Now I realize the economy has been bad for quite some time. I'm sure there are a great number of parents who were doing fine when their children were born and have since fallen on hard times. I feel compassion for them.

However I feel contempt towards parent(s) who are dirt poor, still decide to bring children into this world, and then go on every welfare program from A to Z. These parents are not victims. They are not only responsible for their personal situation they are also to blame for our nations exploding deficit disaster.

I just wish we would address this problem with solutions such as cutting off welfare, forced adoption, forced sterilization etc.

If you can't feed do not breed.
Wow, you would fit right in 1930's Germany.
Casper
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Old 12-29-2010, 12:30 PM
 
Location: In the desert
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I recently read that there is a childhood poverty epedemic with 1 out of 5 U.S children living in poverty. Now I realize the economy has been bad for quite some time. I'm sure there are a great number of parents who were doing fine when their children were born and have since fallen on hard times. I feel compassion for them.

However I feel contempt towards parent(s) who are dirt poor, still decide to bring children into this world, and then go on every welfare program from A to Z. These parents are not victims. They are not only responsible for their personal situation they are also to blame for our nations exploding deficit disaster.

I just wish we would address this problem with solutions such as cutting off welfare, forced adoption, forced sterilization etc.

If you can't feed do not breed.

What about those who could afford to breed & had something devastating happen to them & their circumstances & then became poor?

I am beginning to believe there are better things we could 'cut off' on certain folks to address certain problems.
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