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Old 01-02-2011, 03:23 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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How can the anti-death penalty crowd be taken serious when a life sentence doesn't mean life behind bars.
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Old 01-02-2011, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Tallahassee
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How can the anti-death penalty crowd be taken serious when a life sentence doesn't mean life behind bars.
because that's a different sentence, Life Without Possibility of Parole. Three life sentences to be served concurrently is really serving one life sentence. You have to look at MA to see what a "life" sentence means there.
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Old 01-02-2011, 03:50 PM
 
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We need a different way to determine who gets out of prison.

Any lawyer or judge or panel that thinks someone is good enough to be released should have to prove how committed they are to this belief by having the prisoner move into their home and live with their families for a few months or they should agree to stay with the prisoner inside the prison for a few months.
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Old 01-02-2011, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Tallahassee
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So far as I know, present or not, a judge signs off on any one parolled. IMO anyone that has the slighest bit of say is guilty for accompis to murder, when any violent criminal is parolled.

That anyone that in an act of self dence shooting a parollee in SD, should also have the Right to sue the entire paroll board.

Once I was a victim of a long time convict, a parollee. He didn't get to far, and his days are limited to a wheel chair, but I still want that paroll board. That will never happen of course. The x con was wanted for 6 more bench warrents all related to violence.

This must stop.
This doesn't indicate any role for the judge in a parole hearing or in the decision making process of the parole board in MA. Do you have anything which indicates what a judge's role may be?

THE ROLE OF PAROLE (http://www.crjustice.org/rolparol.htm - broken link)

Parole Statute
[SIZE=2]"The Parole Board shall determine which prisoners in the correctional institutions of the commonwealth or in jails or houses of correction may be released on parole, and when and under what conditions, and the power within such jurisdiction to grant a parole permit to any prisoner, and to revoke, revise, alter or amend the same, and the terms and conditions on which it was granted shall remain in the parole board until the expiration of the maximum term of the sentence of sentences for good conduct, or unless otherwise terminated..."
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Old 01-02-2011, 06:11 PM
 
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Murder is a relative term. Technically a wife who kills her husband who was beating her and was going to kill her, murdered him. But that doesn't mean she was in the wrong either.

I don't like definitive terms in our judicial system. Saying that anyone who murders should be executed is just asking for trouble. But I agree, this animal should have been locked up for the rest of his life at a minimum.

Remember you feel this way when Mike Huckabee when the nomination for the Republican party. President Obama hasn't let cop killers go

That's why I hope Mike Huckabee is NOT the Republican nominee. I would have to vote third party if he was. There is no way I could ever vote for a criminal lover such as Mike Huckabee. I hope his primary opponents and even Obama (if Huckabee is the nominee) will destroy Huckabee for making it possible to release all those dangerous criminals, including the cop killer. That would make for some great negative TV ads.
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Old 01-02-2011, 06:14 PM
 
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How can the anti-death penalty crowd be taken serious when a life sentence doesn't mean life behind bars.
Many of that same anti-DP crowd loves the fact that killers get out of prison early. It gives them a tinge of excitement.

If the DP ever was outlawed the next thing (most) of the anti-DP element would work on is to ban life sentences. They would argue life in prison is cruel and unusual punishment.
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Old 01-02-2011, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Pa
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How can the anti-death penalty crowd be taken serious when a life sentence doesn't mean life behind bars.
How can they even make excuses?
One in the head even at a buck a pop is a cheap way to eliminate the threat once and for all. No not in all cases. Just those that are absolute.
caught on video, 15 eye witnesses to the bank robbery gone bad, caught in the act etc.
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Old 01-03-2011, 07:17 AM
 
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So far as I know, present or not, a judge signs off on any one parolled.

I could be wrong but I think this varies from state to state. Some places the judge signs off, some places it is the prosecutor and I imagine that in some states the parole board has no oversight at all.
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Old 01-03-2011, 07:19 AM
 
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The prisons have to make room for people who smoke marijuana. So stop complaining!

Exactly! We gotta have our priorities straight!

We can't hold jail cells for murderers when there are hippy looking scum and black people running around that are guilty of smoking or selling weed and making baby boomers feel uncomfortable. Gotta lock em up!!!!
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Old 01-03-2011, 10:28 AM
 
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No I don't know the rule of law in Mass, but I am sick of 3 time loosers out on paroll to kill any one again. My method is to shoot them, and so far I shot one. Keep the violent x cons away from me or I will shoot another one. I didn't even get a "Free Ride Down Town", for my troubles but someone owes me 2 shot gun shells, or a scalp in lieu.

I still think it is a wiser idea to jail the paroll board when any x con is parolled and commits another act of violence. I don't really care WHO is on the board, or what law it may be that releases the x con. I know the x cons that do get shot down, don't bother anyone again. That's more along the line of my idea of life. The x con I shot down will be in a wheel chair for the rest of his life and not even Humpy Dumpy's Men can do anything about it.

Does that mean I have 'authority' or what?

You may ask did I enjoy defending my infant son and now x wife, my dog a great dane who stood before me, and under the gun, No I didn't. I was scared, but not in panic. The panic came later, or all my family would be dead. The x con didn't want anything other than lives. He wasn't seeking wealth or gain as we know it, he wanted dead people and that's all he wanted.

So fine 'we' know my terms. For those who want the x cons out doing more violence, you just make sure, they and I never meet, because I am willing to shoot them down to STOP them. The dying part is purely up to the x con. My aim is to simply stop them, in order to live, but to me it makes no difference if they choose to live or die.
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