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Actually think you have finally caught on. The headlines of the reports you have presented, are lies, that you seem to want to continue to perpetrate. IF there was wrong doing, it will be addressed.
You calling the whistleblowers liars? The witnesses that can attest to the inaction on the part of some drivers?
Oh, where IS that calculation about the avg of workers calling in sick on any given day?
You calling the whistleblowers liars? The witnesses that can attest to the inaction on the part of some drivers?
Oh, where IS that calculation about the avg of workers calling in sick on any given day?
You have all the numbers, can't you figure it out? Here again. 9500 employees who call in sick 11.5 times a year, how many would call in on average, daily?
"Yeah, blame the sanitation union for the fact that the Q train wasn't running until THURSDAY, that cars were parked on major arteries making them impossible to plow, and that sanitation trucks and buses were sent out without chains, that there weren't enough workers on duty, that the auxiliary private contractors weren't called in fast enough, that the people whose job it was to know the city was doing a terrible job were going out there telling us the city was doing a great job, and the thousand other problems we saw. That makes total sense, given that they had ZERO input into any of these major decisions. But by all means, let's set aside the actual known _facts_ that better explain the problems we actually had, in favor of conspiracy theories that cast blame on groups you don't like. I just think it's weird you're blaming the unions instead of the WITCHES, who everyone knows are out to get us and who are clearly to blame--you know they are throughout government, right?"
"Yeah, blame the sanitation union for the fact that the Q train wasn't running until THURSDAY, that cars were parked on major arteries making them impossible to plow, and that sanitation trucks and buses were sent out without chains, that there weren't enough workers on duty, that the auxiliary private contractors weren't called in fast enough, that the people whose job it was to know the city was doing a terrible job were going out there telling us the city was doing a great job, and the thousand other problems we saw. That makes total sense, given that they had ZERO input into any of these major decisions. But by all means, let's set aside the actual known _facts_ that better explain the problems we actually had, in favor of conspiracy theories that cast blame on groups you don't like. I just think it's weird you're blaming the unions instead of the WITCHES, who everyone knows are out to get us and who are clearly to blame--you know they are throughout government, right?"
You have all the numbers, can't you figure it out? Here again. 9500 employees who call in sick 11.5 times a year, how many would call in on average, daily?
No, you said you got it from the article in the NYPost (of all places, I thought that was not a credible source). Just wondering how you came up with the 315 workers a day calling in sick.
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Originally Posted by plannine
Hmmm.....
the headline of the news article says 'Sanit Bigs'
later another line says supervisors
but later they are talking to their bosses
even the article doesn't make sense.
If they are "Bigs", aren't they the Bosses? So who were they talking to, their wifes?
If they are supervisors, they wouldn't be out plowing would they?
And they sat in the car all night with the motor running?
And finally 4 men + 12 beers = Blitzed?
Shabby reporting at best, no matter what the truth is.
No wonder more people read page 6 then the rest of the paper.
Sanit Bigs probably means sanitation big wigs as in the bosses. Although this headline reads;
Sanitation Department's slow snow cleanup was a budget protest
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Originally Posted by meson
"Yeah, blame the sanitation union for the fact that the Q train wasn't running until THURSDAY, that cars were parked on major arteries making them impossible to plow, and that sanitation trucks and buses were sent out without chains, that there weren't enough workers on duty, that the auxiliary private contractors weren't called in fast enough, that the people whose job it was to know the city was doing a terrible job were going out there telling us the city was doing a great job, and the thousand other problems we saw. That makes total sense, given that they had ZERO input into any of these major decisions. But by all means, let's set aside the actual known _facts_ that better explain the problems we actually had, in favor of conspiracy theories that cast blame on groups you don't like. I just think it's weird you're blaming the unions instead of the WITCHES, who everyone knows are out to get us and who are clearly to blame--you know they are throughout government, right?"
No, I believe it's a dirtbag Republican councilman's by the name of Dan Halloran conspiracy against the
union, he is known to HATE unions and he is the one and only source for this nonsense.
Garbage Piles Up In Wake Of Blizzard (http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/nyc/garbage-piles-up-in-wake-of-blizzard-20101231 - broken link)
Garbage Piles Up In Wake Of Blizzard
What a shocker, oh my, the sanitation department can't pick up garbage and plow snow at the same time. Who in their right minds really thinks it's humanly possible to keep their garbage pick up schedule in the wake of a blizzard that dumped 18 to 28" inches of snow (depending on what part of the city you measure) while winds were gusted up to 80 miles an hour? Of course, the garbage is piling up. Snow has rightly been the higher priority.
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Originally Posted by meson
No, I believe it's a dirtbag Republican councilman's by the name of Dan Halloran conspiracy against the
union, he is known to HATE unions and he is the one and only source for this nonsense.
What a shocker, oh my, the sanitation department can't pick up garbage and plow snow at the same time. Who in their right minds really thinks it's humanly possible to keep their garbage pick up schedule in the wake of a blizzard that dumped 18 to 28" inches of snow (depending on what part of the city you measure) while winds were gusted up to 80 miles an hour? Of course, the garbage is piling up. Snow has rightly been the higher priority.
Logic doesn't appear to be a right wing strong point.
No, you said you got it from the article in the NYPost (of all places, I thought that was not a credible source). Just wondering how you came up with the 315 workers a day calling in sick.
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The article in NYPost was one from Oct 14 that stated, as many sources do, the avg number of sick days used by the Sanitation Workers is 11.5. I gave you the link from the NYC Sanitation web site that shows the number of employees, about 9500. Apparently some must be spoon fed, so here goes.
9500 people call in sick 11.5 time per year == 109250 calls per year.
Now here is the hard part, you got to figure out how many days there are in a year!! First attempt, one would say 365. So we will try that.
109250/365 == 299 , but people don't work 365 days per year, so let's say 52 weeks, 5 days per week, that comes up to 260. So, let's try that.
109250/260 == 420 , that would indicate more than 400 call in on a normal basis, so during this event, fewer called in. But, that's not realistic either. Lets assume the are some that work more than 5 days per week, and of course there are vacations and personal days, oh my this gets too confusing. So, lets guess somewhere between 365 and 260, say 347, probably too high, but for argument purposes, we'll use that nice round number.
109250/347 == 315. Ergo the magic number, probably too low, but that's OK
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