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Old 12-31-2010, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Who does one sue when a doc does wrong under Obamacare? The government?

The same as you would now.
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Old 12-31-2010, 09:01 PM
 
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The same as you would now.
Not necessarily true. It if is a government funded program and the doctor is a government employee you most likely will waive your right to sue when you seek care.
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Old 12-31-2010, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Not necessarily true. It if is a government funded program and the doctor is a government employee you most likely will waive your right to sue when you seek care.

It is still between you, the doc and the insurance company. Even with current government funded medical programs (the exception would be those in the military, as both the solider and the doctor would be government employees) the government role is purely administrative.
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Old 12-31-2010, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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Not necessarily true. It if is a government funded program and the doctor is a government employee you most likely will waive your right to sue when you seek care.
How many doctors in this country are government employees (outside of the military and, perhaps, VA)? Medicare and Medicaid provide reimbursement to private physicians.
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Old 12-31-2010, 09:05 PM
 
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Back to the original post. I doubt that 40% of physicians will stop practicing. What you WILL see is the most experienced and talented physicians saying: "f this", I am going to retire early....dealing with all this government red tape and BS is not worth it. I guarantee that you will see some of the highest qualified MDs dropping out of practice.

What is really sad is that Obama, congress and other special people will continue to have top notch medical care and highly qualified physicians since they will have opted out of Obamacare.

I think that the lawmakers should have use the same insurance and follow the same rules and laws that they pass for US citizens. NO exceptions. They are here to serve the people of the USA, not vice versa.
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Old 12-31-2010, 09:08 PM
 
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It is still between you, the doc and the insurance company. Even with current government funded medical programs.
No, it is not. I am not sure why you think that. When a physician agrees to participate in any insurance contract, government or otherwise, he or she agrees to file claims on behalf of the patients. As far as lawsuits go, government employed physicians are covered under a blanket policy and are not personally liable for claims.
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Old 12-31-2010, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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government employed physicians are covered under a blanket policy and are not personally liable for claims.
Who are these government-employed physicians? I haven't seen one since I was in the Army. Even the docs at the local VA hospital operate simultaneously in private practice. Public health service, maybe?
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Old 12-31-2010, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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That's why the practice of 'concierge medicine' in which doctors take cash only and do not accept any insurance is on the rise; they realize that they can make more money and keep more of it without dealing with horrendous entities such as Medicare, which mandates them to accept payment in full from a payment schedule which is very far removed from reality.

If you think health insurance premiums are going up steadily now, just wait until 2014 when they explode.

The 100+ boards, agencies, commissions & other paper-shuffling entities which ObamaCare will create will have to be paid for, so how will their existence and bloat help improve the delivery of healthcare in this country?
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Old 12-31-2010, 09:15 PM
 
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Who are these government-employed physicians? I haven't seen one since I was in the Army. Even the docs at the local VA hospital operate simultaneously in private practice. Public health service, maybe?
Yes, most operate a private practice outside the VA but they cannot be sued for services provided as contracted physicians for the VA because they are covered under the VA liability policy for those services.
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Old 12-31-2010, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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Yes, most operate a private practice outside the VA but they cannot be sued for services provided as contracted physicians for the VA because they are covered under the VA liability policy for those services.
Very well, but now we're only talking about military and VA docs. They must treat less than 5 percent of the U.S. population.
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