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View Poll Results: If you knew your neighbor grew, what would you do?
Nothing, none of my business 228 69.72%
Only if it was for personal use, and they were responsible 31 9.48%
Only if it was for personal medical use, and they were responsible 7 2.14%
Nothing, but only if I knew them and they were responsible 17 5.20%
Call the cops, arrest the criminals, regardless of who they are 44 13.46%
Voters: 327. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-07-2011, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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So, how do you feel about illegal aliens?

Are you as quick to act?
Yes, if I am aware that a crime is taking place, be it theft, growing illegal substances, or someone here illegally the answer is the same.
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:11 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I am sure that many people think it's so funny with the comments about seeing how much they have, can they spare any, etc etc etc.

Have you considered the following?

1. It's illegal.
2. The person growing the pot, is KNOWINGLY and intentionally breaking the law.
3. Simply because you WANT something, is not a good reason to break the law. That's what criminals do.
4. While you and I may not think that a little bit of pot is a bad thing, and that the recreational use of it isn't going to hurt people, the bottom line is, until the law is changed, it's illegal, and I repeat, knowingly and intentionally performing an illegal action, just because you WANT something, is the activity of a criminal.

Knowing that, if my neighbor was growing the weed, I would have the police down upon their head and shoulders so fast, they wouldn't have time to breathe. Breaking the law, whether we like that particular law or not, simply because you WANT something makes you no better than the petty criminal who steals from the local 7-11. A criminal is a criminal because they knowingly and willing break the law.
Oh, I wasn't trying to be funny. I was giving an honest answer. Sorry, but the government doesn't own me. I work, go to school, pay my taxes and I consider myself a responsible citizen. Am I intentionally breaking the law? Guess that depends on the perspective. I don't buy it just so I can break the law, It just so happens that the plant I enjoy recreationally on the weekends is illegal.
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Missouri
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I would call the cops in a heartbeat if I knew and could prove my neighbor was growing marijuana; just as my neighbors would do the same to me. I don't want my property value to decline any more because there is illegal activity occurring next door. It's gone down enough already.

I don't care if you smoke it, but not in my neighborhood. Take it somewhere else.
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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My responses are in red.
Mine are in blue.

2. The person growing the pot, is KNOWINGLY and intentionally breaking the law. And if he isn't causing gang violence in the neighborhood. Or having traffic all hours of the night, and not pushing harder more danger subtances, then what is the big deal? It's not my business.

It's illegal, technically it is your business, if you know that an illegal activity is taking place, and you don't act upon it, that is your business. In my eyes, it makes you just a criminally liable is the person performing the action.

3. Simply because you WANT something, is not a good reason to break the law. That's what criminals do. Do you think that maybe some laws are dumb? Have you ever driven faster than the speed limit? Shot off fireworks? Blaired your music too loud? Any one of these could be said as breaking the law. Does that make someone a criminal? I mean, might as well lock them up and throw away the key too.

Yes I think some laws are dumb, but that doesn't give me free reign to ignore those laws. I follow the speed limit, any fireworks I have ever shot off were legally purchased and used in the state I used them, I don't play my music loud, if I can hear it, I am happy, why should I inflict what I am listening to upon your ears?

4. While you and I may not think that a little bit of pot is a bad thing, and that the recreational use of it isn't going to hurt people, the bottom line is, until the law is changed, it's illegal, and I repeat, knowingly and intentionally performing an illegal action, just because you WANT something, is the activity of a criminal. If you know this, then why all the fuss? The fact of the matter is, it's a stupid law that was enacted due to propaganda, racism, and lies, as well as a few special interest groups to who stood to lose a lot of money by keeping it legal?

And it's a stupid law, but until it's repealed, revoked, removed, it's still the law.

Knowing that, if my neighbor was growing the weed, I would have the police down upon their head and shoulders so fast, they wouldn't have time to breathe. Breaking the law, whether we like that particular law or not, simply because you WANT something makes you no better than the petty criminal who steals from the local 7-11. A criminal is a criminal because they knowingly and willing break the law. For cryin' out loud you make it sound like he murdered someone! If you truly believed that a little bit of pot isn't going to hurt anyone then you wouldn't make statements such as this. Yeah, it's the law. We know. It's illegal. It's an archaic law that makes no sense, and quite frankly I'm sick of my tax money funding this farce that they call "the war on drugs." Especially when it's a war on a God given plant with a bunch of benefits. If you want to have a war on a plant, let's look to irradicate poison ivy, considering the allergic reaction when touched, as well as if burned those in the proximity of it can inhale it, and have serious consequences. Just sayin'.

And the answer stands. A person who knowingly and willing breaks the law, is a criminal. Whether is an archaic stupid law that makes no sense, till it's repealed, it's the law. If your sick of your tax money being spent on the "war on drugs", then get the law changed, or get people to follow the law. Either of those two, results in the same thing, the end of the law on drugs.
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:22 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Yes, if I am aware that a crime is taking place, be it theft, growing illegal substances, or someone here illegally the answer is the same.
And you think the weed growing, is as bad as theft, and criminal treaspassing?

I guess my point is, the pot growing doesn't HURT everyone and
the other two activities have disproportional harms to society.

I can see letting someone off on a jay-walking incident, but,
someone speeding and driving erratic in a neighborhood with
small children would cause me to make a phone call.
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:26 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Yes, if I am aware that a crime is taking place, be it theft, growing illegal substances, or someone here illegally the answer is the same.

I definitely understand reporting theft, any sort of violence, vandalism, or anything that presents a danger to my family, myself or the neighborhood. For example, if said neighbor is growing pot, and there are drive bys or any of that other crap, then yeah, I'm saying something, but I would be reporting because of the violent crimes, not because of the pot plants. 9 times out of 10 I would have to feel that someone growing a few plants isn't a big time dealer. More than likely they are doing it for personal use, and maybe sell or give to a select few people. I would have to feel that that neighbor would want to do his best to stay under the radar, and not attract any attention for something as trivial as growing weed. The reason that pro-pot people are for legalization (and not everyone supporting legalization consumes it) is due to the lies and BS that we've been fed about it. Even with all of the evidence supporting all of the benefits and debunking all of the BS that the government has spewed concerning pot, it's as if the government is like a child stamping their feet up and down with their fingers in their ears going "la la la la la" or "nuh uh!" That is a reason why I don't think it makes someone who wants to grow, and use it for his own use a criminal. Selling it, and inciting violence, yes the violence part makes them a criminal! That's how I see it.
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:26 AM
 
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I am sure that many people think it's so funny with the comments about seeing how much they have, can they spare any, etc etc etc.

Have you considered the following?

1. It's illegal.
2. The person growing the pot, is KNOWINGLY and intentionally breaking the law.
3. Simply because you WANT something, is not a good reason to break the law. That's what criminals do.
4. While you and I may not think that a little bit of pot is a bad thing, and that the recreational use of it isn't going to hurt people, the bottom line is, until the law is changed, it's illegal, and I repeat, knowingly and intentionally performing an illegal action, just because you WANT something, is the activity of a criminal.

Knowing that, if my neighbor was growing the weed, I would have the police down upon their head and shoulders so fast, they wouldn't have time to breathe. Breaking the law, whether we like that particular law or not, simply because you WANT something makes you no better than the petty criminal who steals from the local 7-11. A criminal is a criminal because they knowingly and willing break the law.
Marrying interracially was illegal for a long time. Showing your hair and ankles is illegal in some countries. Just because it's the law doesn't mean it's right. There are times when you have to use your own judgment because there are many laws that are unethical or lack common sense.

People who deal with pot in any way know they're breaking the law. But they use their own judgment and common sense to come to the conclusion that it's not a law worth following.

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Yes, if I am aware that a crime is taking place, be it theft, growing illegal substances, or someone here illegally the answer is the same.
Would you try to get a jaywalker arrested? After all that is just as much a crime as murder and rape, right? Where do you draw the line?

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And it's a stupid law, but until it's repealed, revoked, removed, it's still the law.
Sometimes it takes breaking a lot to get it repealed, revoked, and removed. If it weren't for people like MLK, the Birmingham Campaign, and Rosa Parks, who knowingly and intentionally broke the racial segregation laws, those laws would probably still be in place today.
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Old 01-07-2011, 10:33 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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And you think the weed growing, is as bad as theft, and criminal treaspassing?

I guess my point is, the pot growing doesn't HURT everyone and
the other two activities have disproportional harms to society.

I can see letting someone off on a jay-walking incident, but,
someone speeding and driving erratic in a neighborhood with
small children would cause me to make a phone call.

Exactly. Who is doing more harm? The erratic speeder (hopefully he isn't stoned, LOL) or the guy that is growing a few plants and using it for personal consumption on his down time? Chances are I'm calling on the idiot barreling through my neighborhood!

I can't speak for everyone, but on the occassion that I may toke, I most certainly am not driving! I wouldn't toke up just before going into the office either, any more than have a few drinks before work or getting in the car after a few. Most people are responsible enough to know better, and do the right thing and don't drive when they're totally f-ed up! Hell, I don't even drive after a beer or two anymore unless it's been several hours! It's just not worth it. Those that are dumb enough to do so deserve the consequences that they may receive. It isn't rocket science. It's common sense.
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by Darkatt View Post
I am sure that many people think it's so funny with the comments about seeing how much they have, can they spare any, etc etc etc.

Have you considered the following?

1. It's illegal.
2. The person growing the pot, is KNOWINGLY and intentionally breaking the law.
3. Simply because you WANT something, is not a good reason to break the law. That's what criminals do.
4. While you and I may not think that a little bit of pot is a bad thing, and that the recreational use of it isn't going to hurt people, the bottom line is, until the law is changed, it's illegal, and I repeat, knowingly and intentionally performing an illegal action, just because you WANT something, is the activity of a criminal.

Knowing that, if my neighbor was growing the weed, I would have the police down upon their head and shoulders so fast, they wouldn't have time to breathe. Breaking the law, whether we like that particular law or not, simply because you WANT something makes you no better than the petty criminal who steals from the local 7-11. A criminal is a criminal because they knowingly and willing break the law.

We know all that and still would not call the cops. Why? Because it's a stupid big government law and people have a moral obligation to oppose laws like this one. Oppressive laws should be opposed and violated. That's just like those that opposed slavery. They were right to do so.

And it's not just like stealing from the local 7-11. Not even close. If you can't see the difference, I certainly would not want to be your neighbor.
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:19 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Call me a criminal if you feel the need, but the truth still stands that many people enjoy the plant and a lot of people need it for medicinal reasons. A medicine that won't damage your liver and the rest of your organs. It will be grown, it will be sold and it will be bought. Legal or illegal and until the government can get their head out of their ass, the profits will go to the citizens. Simple as that.

http://preventdisease.com/news/10/120310_marijuana_cuts_tumor_growth.shtml
"The active ingredient in marijuana cuts tumor growth in common lung cancer in half and significantly reduces the ability of the cancer to spread, say researchers at Harvard University who tested the chemical in both lab and mouse studies."
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