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Old 01-04-2011, 03:14 PM
 
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Really, with plenty of evidence you wouldn't convict international drug traffickers? That speaks loudly to character that you would follow your belief system as a juror rather than the actual law.
You always kill it!
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Old 01-04-2011, 03:19 PM
 
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People aren't robots. We have minds of our own, and it's clear that some laws need to be changed.

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I know that jurors are instructed to decide based on the law and the facts presented. If a person cannot actually do that they should recuse themselves and they will not be picked for the jury. [MOD CUT]

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Old 01-04-2011, 03:20 PM
 
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I don't like Matthews' politics, but how does this involve him?

It's as ridiculous as the lefties linking Limbaugh to some wacko murderer who went to the same school.
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Old 01-04-2011, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Really, with plenty of evidence you wouldn't convict international drug traffickers? That speaks loudly to character that you would follow your belief system as a juror rather than the actual law.
When prosecutors try someone based on the fact that they killed their husband, does the defense not often say "well he was abusive" thus justifying the act of murder?

If the guy got up and said he was selling pot because he finds it a drug with medicinal benefits, and he doesn't understand why its illegal, then I'd find that justification enough for breaking the law.

And I would tell the judge that upfront, which would mean the prosecution wouldn't take me as a juror.
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Old 01-04-2011, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I know that jurors are instructed to decide based on the law and the facts presented. If a person cannot actually do that they should recuse themselves and they will not be picked for the jury. Interesting that you would try to toss racebaiting into the thread too.
But breaking the law under specific circumstances is a perfectly acceptable defense in our country.

People do it everyday "I was speeding, but my wife was in labor"

"I killed my husband, but he was beating me"

"I did steal that loaf of bread, but my family was hungry"

I'm a legal citizen, my opinion is free to me, and I find the fact that someone who was convicted of a non violent crime that hurt no one is a fact that can't be ignored.
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Old 01-04-2011, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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A lot of fuss over a harmless weed....
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Old 01-04-2011, 04:03 PM
 
Location: California
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As far as Chris Matthews goes unless he is involved it doesn't have anything to do with him but it is drug smuggling and when people say there is no harm how do they know? It was being brought from another country probably bought from drug cartels so how many people could have been harmed? Four thousand five hundred pounds is a load, they are in big trouble and rightfully so anyone who wouldn't convict someone on that is foolish.
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Old 01-04-2011, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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As far as Chris Matthews goes unless he is involved it doesn't have anything to do with him but it is drug smuggling and when people say there is no harm how do they know? It was being brought from another country probably bought from drug cartels so how many people could have been harmed? Four thousand five hundred pounds is a load, they are in big trouble and rightfully so anyone who wouldn't convict someone on that is foolish.
Was anyone shot in the arrest? Did they have weapons on their person?

Buying and selling goods, without violence, whether legal or illegal has no violence related.

If someone gets harm from the substance they knowingly buy and puts into their body, thats their problem.

Pots harmless though, so its a win win.
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Old 01-04-2011, 04:08 PM
 
Location: California
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Was anyone shot in the arrest? Did they have weapons on their person?

Buying and selling goods, without violence, whether legal or illegal has no violence related.

If someone gets harm from the substance they knowingly buy and puts into their body, thats their problem.

Pots harmless though, so its a win win.
Drug cartels never harm anyone, yeah your correct
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Old 01-04-2011, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Whats the big deal? I am sure it was all for personal use.
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