LBJ....worst POTUS in history. (9/11, cost, compared, economic)
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Originally Posted by alphamale
Who was responsible for the major combat operations in Vietnam? The Vietnam War was escalated and turned into a major war because of LBJ's actions and policies.
I love how the left is dancing around the truth.
Had it been a republican President, you would be arguing on the other side.
YOU are the one impersonating Fred Astaire here, and not well.
You didn't say 'major combat operations' in the OP, you alleged LBJ started the war which is pure, unadulterated BS.
Funny how you think it's common knowledge yet you are unable to provide a source and literally everyone else who has posted in this thread has disagreed with you. This is cognitive dissonance at its finest.
And for the majority of those 40 years we had Republican administrations. Great testimony to their ability to solve things, eh?
Actually from between 1968 and 2008 the only Democratic Presidents where Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.
The fact Republicans REFUSE to take any measure of responsibility for the current state of the country is a testament to their intellectual and moral dishonesty.
Who was responsible for the major combat operations in Vietnam? The Vietnam War was escalated and turned into a major war because of LBJ's actions and policies.
I love how the left is dancing around the truth.
I'm no way "left" Far from it.
Truth is a very powerful word.
When someone states LBJ "started" the Vietnam war
That is not the truth.
Did LBJ punch them back. Hell yes he did, but LBJ did not draw first blood.
The problem is, we didn't go in to win. Just to hit them back, every time they hit us.
Why are the poor still so poverty stricken? The "war on poverty" didn't work and is failed policy, yet liberals defend it to the end and continue to ask for more funding.
Who was responsible for the major combat operations in Vietnam? The Vietnam War was escalated and turned into a major war because of LBJ's actions and policies.
I love how the left is dancing around the truth.
Had it been a republican President, you would be arguing on the other side.
You can stand by your statements all you want, they will be incorrect no matter how much you call them the truth. You clearly have no other knowledge to back up your opinions. Let's just take ONE of your claims.
Why is the poverty rate decreasing during LBJ's administration?
Even if your incorrect implication that the Great Society was detrimental to the black community was true, do you not recognize the absurdity of claiming that it is 100% responsible for poverty in the black community? Do you not recognize the myriad forces that influence poverty in any society? White flight, racial discrimination, the crack epidemic, the gutting of inner city schools, all of these things and more played a role in the situation which you so ignorantly want to claim is 100% the result of LBJ's social policy. To be quite honest, in my opinion, Reagan's policies were far more detrimental to the black community than anything LBJ did. Whatever the case, your assertion is flat out WRONG. Even the extremely conservative economist Thomas Sowell, who would agree with you that LBJ's policies were destructive, would never suggest that they were the sole cause for anything the position of the black community, and I am certain you are far less learned on the subject.
The poverty rate among black families fell from 87 percent in 1940 to 47 percent in 1960, during an era of virtually no major civil rights legislation or anti-poverty programs. It dropped another 17 percentage points during the decade of the 1960s and one percentage point during the 1970s
Does anyone need to be reminded that we had advisory roles in at least 60 countries immediately following WWII up until the same time combat started in Vietnam in 1964? Do you need to know how many troops we have stationed in advisory roles across the planet today? Were those same "advisers" a preclude to invasion in Panama? Colombia? Ecuador? Chile? Chad? Somalia? How about Israel? Japan? Turkey? During the Cold War this list was much, much longer. We were involved in an "advisory role" in dozens of countries on every continent, usually training friendly troops against Communist guerrillas, especially in Africa and Latin America. It doesn't mean jacksh-t.
What does matter is taking a non-incident such as the Gulf of Tonkin then manipulating the story so you can garner support for a war. A war that cost us 60,000 soldiers and many more wounded and maimed, plus billions in wasted money and supplies. Need I remind anyone that our pullout and the subsequent fall of Saigon never caused this so called "domino effect." Sorry, but as much as you try to deny it, Johnson is liable for criticism despite the left wingers here who would never see a Democrat president as anything other than god-like.
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Originally Posted by JazzyTallGuy
Actually from between 1968 and 2008 the only Democratic Presidents where Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.
The fact Republicans REFUSE to take any measure of responsibility for the current state of the country is a testament to their intellectual and moral dishonesty.
Maybe they are being honest and they're just irresponsible.
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