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Old 01-06-2011, 08:18 PM
 
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Everyone is for clean air, water and land. Don't need carbon taxes or job killing regulation based on hoax science to achieve it.
So we should scrap all regulation that protects the environment?
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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So we should scrap all regulation that protects the environment?
Of course not. Carbon taxes don't protect the environment. As one of the IPCC cabal has stated - it is strictly a tool for wealth redistribution.

Can you imagine the kind of dead world we would have if Co2 were eliminated?
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:25 PM
 
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America should abolish the EPA and all environmental protection laws. Who needs the environment anyway? Vacant areas serve as great places to dump trash of all sorts without a fee. People should be allowed to dump wherever they want without any stupid government laws and fines. Industry could function much better (and cheaper) by dumping industrial waste wherever is convenient. That's why god created lakes, rivers, and streams - to dump waste.
Ahhh more sarcasm and flame comments, thanx!!!
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:25 PM
 
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Of course not. Carbon taxes don't protect the environment. As one of the IPCC cabal has stated - it is strictly a tool for wealth redistribution.

Can you imagine the kind of dead world we would have if Co2 were eliminated?
A carbon tax wouldn't eliminate all carbon.
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:29 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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America should abolish the EPA and all environmental protection laws. Who needs the environment anyway? Vacant areas serve as great places to dump trash of all sorts without a fee. People should be allowed to dump wherever they want without any stupid government laws and fines. Industry could function much better (and cheaper) by dumping industrial waste wherever is convenient. That's why god created lakes, rivers, and streams - to dump waste.

That could all be done at the State and especially the local level governments(and is already), not an income tax sucking federal agency.

The EPA is not needed for that.
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:31 PM
 
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NM is in EPA Region 6 and OK and NM have the most tribes of any of the Region 6 states. I wonder how much she has dealt with the NM tribes? They all have environmental programs and have had for a long time. This shall be interesting.
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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A carbon tax wouldn't eliminate all carbon.
There is NO evidence that links Co2 to "warming". Just computer models, telling us there should be, hence no need regulate anything based on a theory, which is based on faulty, bogus science.

Co2 is good, plants absolutely love it.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/01/0...coal-say-watt/

http://www.scirp.org/Journal/PaperIn...tm_campaign=01
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:50 PM
 
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There is NO evidence that links Co2 to "warming". Just computer models, telling us there should be, hence no need regulate anything based on a theory, which is based on faulty, bogus science.

Co2 is good, plants absolutely love it.

CO2 is Plant Food (Clean Coal, Say WATT?) | Watts Up With That?

Paper: Warming Power of CO2 and H2O: Correlations with Temperature Changes
Is it a greenhouse gas?
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Old 01-06-2011, 10:47 PM
 
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Is it a greenhouse gas?
Depends if you view it as a leading or a lagging factor. As far as the actual physical properties, its an extremely poor GG by many orders of magnitudes when you consider concentrations.
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Old 01-06-2011, 10:48 PM
 
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Clean water, clean air, and clean soil is socialism.


no, but the epa is.
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