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Old 01-07-2011, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Well sure they do you can't pass on costs forever to customers or they may try other options. Especially in communications there are many other alternatives to Verizon that are not equally affected. i.e. Skype.
Maybe Verizon could just offer their employees health insurance if that is their problem.

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Employers with 50 or more full-time workers that do not offer health insurance coverage will pay an assessment of $2,000 per full-time worker (not including the first 30 workers) if any of their employees obtains premium tax credits through the newly created government funded health care insurance exchange. Employers that offer unaffordable coverage or coverage that does not cover at least 60 percent of allowable costs will pay $3,000 for any employee that receives a tax credit in the Exchange up to a cap of $2,000 for every full-time employee.
Employers that do not provide health insurance (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/health-care/3206-new-taxes-tax-increases-in-healthcare-law - broken link)
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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OK why don't you try reading the link before you reply next. I am not going to cut and paste the entire thing for you. You are talking about a subject very different from the tax implications of Obamacare on corporations.
Just show me the part in the healthcare bill. I cannot find it.
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Maybe Verizon could just offer their employees health insurance if that is their problem.


Employers that do not provide health insurance (http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/health-care/3206-new-taxes-tax-increases-in-healthcare-law - broken link)

What is your aversion to actually reading the link. Go read it and report back to us. HINT: they do provide their employees health insurance. No go. Read the link.
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Just show me the part in the healthcare bill. I cannot find it.
Read the link, no more spoon feeding.
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Again you are blowing smoke, killing this pig will save money.
CBO States that the repeal would add $230 billion to the deficit.

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Congressional budget scorekeepers said Thursday that Republicans' effort to repeal healthcare reform would increase the deficit by about $230 billion over the first 10 years, adding fodder to Democrats' argument that the House GOP is violating a key campaign pledge with its first major vote.

In a letter sent Thursday to House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), the Congressional Budget Office provided a preliminary analysis of the repeal bill, which is scheduled to come up for a vote Wednesday. A more detailed analysis of the legislation is forthcoming, the CBO said.

The $230 billion estimate is higher than one from last year, largely because it now examines the effect of the law between 2012 and 2021 instead of an earlier window.
CBO warns repealing healthcare would add $230 billion to deficit - The Hill's Healthwatch
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Well sure they do you can't pass on costs forever to customers or they may try other options. Especially in communications there are many other alternatives to Verizon that are not equally affected. i.e. Skype.
It is true we have a free market system. I thought the right was all for the free market system, no?
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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Great! Now maybe those thousands of doctors will reconsider continuing* their profession instead of flipping burgers in protest.

*Treating only those who can afford to pay, of course, just as the American system was intended.
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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What is your aversion to actually reading the link. Go read it and report back to us. HINT: they do provide their employees health insurance. No go. Read the link.
You mean the massive government handout the corporations got from Bush?? Is that what you mean. The fact Corporations were able to write off what the GOVERNMENT PAID FOR as their own expense??
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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What is your aversion to actually reading the link. Go read it and report back to us. HINT: they do provide their employees health insurance. No go. Read the link.
You mean this!

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At issue is a section of the law that eliminates a tax break available to companies that provide drug benefits to retirees as part of their insurance coverage.
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Under another provision, employers may be subject to financial penalties if they do not offer health insurance to employees. Documents provided to Congress by AT&T indicate that its medical costs in 2009 were $4.7 billion, divided about equally between active employees and retirees — far more than it would pay in penalties if it did not provide coverage.
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Verizon said it was taking a $970 million charge against earnings because of the change in tax treatment of a subsidy it receives for retiree drug coverage. In addition, Verizon said it could be affected by a new tax on high-cost health plans that takes effect in 2018.
your link

I see how the companies will no longer get subsidies from the government for providing healthcare but I thought you right wingers were against government subsidized healthcare.
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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BTW the title fits nowhere near what happened. A vote will occur next week. The vote today was a procedural vote to govern the rules regarding how the actual vote next week will take place. Seven hours of debate with no Amendments allowed.
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