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Old 01-07-2011, 11:42 AM
 
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His more extreme left advisors and aids have already left and/or are in the process of leaving the WH spotlight so that Obama can re-brand himself as a "centrist" for his 2012 run for re-election.

The far left would have you think Obama is a centrist. It is all smoke and mirrors. This is nothing more than Obama utilizing the Clinton regime's personel and knowledge in order to coast through the next two years making appearances to be bi-partisan. Obama remains a Socialist-globalist in his policies and goals. He know's he hit a temporary detour on his road to fundamentally change the US into a Socialist Democracy.

Do not be fooled.
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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He's pulling a "Bill Clinton" ?
Maybe Bill had a word or two with him regarding how to get re-elected.
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:48 AM
 
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It doesn't really matter what Obama's personal preferences are.

He could be a closet-tarot card reader, for all it matters.

What matters is how centrist the policies enacted under Obama are. And, frankly, how centrist the Republican House of Representatives end up being.
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Denver
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I believe that he had the most liberal voting record in the Senate. The nation wanted a radical change from the *Bushbarians.....that is who got him elected.


I don't really mind Bush....just think the administration made a lot of catastrophic mistakes...along with plenty of bad luck.
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Old 01-07-2011, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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It'll be interesting to see what the change of personnel will do for his administration. I like the guy and hope it goes well for him and his administration.
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Old 01-07-2011, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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His more extreme left advisors and aids have already left and/or are in the process of leaving the WH spotlight so that Obama can re-brand himself as a "centrist" for his 2012 run for re-election.

The far left would have you think Obama is a centrist. It is all smoke and mirrors. This is nothing more than Obama utilizing the Clinton regime's personel and knowledge in order to coast through the next two years making appearances to be bi-partisan. Obama remains a Socialist-globalist in his policies and goals. He know's he hit a temporary detour on his road to fundamentally change the US into a Socialist Democracy.

Do not be fooled.
Here comes that word "Socialist" again...do you actually know what a "Socialist" is?
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Old 01-07-2011, 12:21 PM
 
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His more extreme left advisors and aids have already left and/or are in the process of leaving the WH spotlight so that Obama can re-brand himself as a "centrist" for his 2012 run for re-election.

The far left would have you think Obama is a centrist. It is all smoke and mirrors. This is nothing more than Obama utilizing the Clinton regime's personel and knowledge in order to coast through the next two years making appearances to be bi-partisan. Obama remains a Socialist-globalist in his policies and goals. He know's he hit a temporary detour on his road to fundamentally change the US into a Socialist Democracy.

Do not be fooled.
When the president is pursuing policies that give wall street trillions of dollars in loans at 0%, then it is hard for me to call him left wing, or liberal.

In my mind, his corporatist economic policies that maintain the status quo pretty much cancel all the other centrist, populist, or liberal policies that he supports.

in order to call him a "socialist", he would've had to let AIG, Bank of America, et al, fail -- and give trillions from the treasury, directly to the American people, based upon need. He didn't do that; in fact he did the opposite. He redistributed wealth to the people who needed it the least, just like Bush, by giving bank holding companies "free money" from the treasury with no strings attached.

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Old 01-07-2011, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Here comes that word "Socialist" again...do you actually know what a "Socialist" is?
Unfortunately, for "socialists", yes, people are waking up to the rebranding of socialism to progressivism. When progressive is worn out then they'll just rebrand it to something else. Maybe the "politically enlightened party" or PEP! That has a nice ring to it. Let's all get PEP'd.

What I don't get is that liberals threw conservatives out of office in 2006 and then 2008 because of financial plundering, but when you put in liberals do you expect any difference? I mean doesn't liberal mean liberal? Liberal spending, liberal law making, and liberal to remove our liberty? What did you think they'd do if they had un-reigned power? They did exactly what most level headed people figured they do, and then went beyond it.

Obama is pulling a Clinton on queue. This is scripted and they have a play book with a history of success to act on. Americans have short memories and 18 months of a little positive progress should be about all he needs to get re-elected. He'll then proceed to move even further left, and this time he'll run the table with four years to finish what he started.

The Senate will thwart any progress that could be achieved through the Congress. If I were a betting man I'd say they'll want to crush the new conservatives as often as possible in an attempt to take the house back resulting in a final blow (cou de gras), ushering in the collapse of our government, which, after all, is the end run anyway.

We are being played like a fiddle.

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Old 01-07-2011, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Unfortunately for "socialists", yes, people are waking up to the rebranding of socialism to progressivism. When progressive is worn out then they'll just rebrand it to something else. Maybe the "politically enligtened party" or PEP! That has a nice ring to it. Let's all get PEP'd

What I don't get is that liberals threw conservatives out of office in 2006 and then 2008 because of financial plundering, but when you put the liberals did you expect any difference? What did you think they'd do if they had unreined power? They did exactly what most level headed people figured they do.

Obama is pulling a Clinton on queue. This is scripted and they have a play book with a history of success to act on. Americans have short memories and 18 months of a little positive progress should be about all he needs to get re-elected. He'll then proceed to move even further left, and this time he'll run the table with 4 years to finish what he started.

The Senate will thwart any progress that could be acheived through the Congress. If I were a betting man I'd say they'll want to crush the new conservatives as often as possible in an attempt to take the house back and that'll be final blow, ushering in the collapse of our government which is the end run anyway.

We are being played like a fiddle.
Yes we are. History is indeed repeating itself I think.
Six months or so and we'll see if we're correct in our thinking.
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Old 01-07-2011, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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When the president is pursuing policies that give wall street trillions of dollars in loans at 0%, then it is hard for me to call him left wing, or liberal.
ARE YOU CRAZY?

Democrats are in bed with Wall Street. Republicans are in bed with Corporations and BIG business. It's been this way for nearly 60 years. They are all in bed with each other. One hand holds the other and the acronyms are only for our benefit. In reality they should all be called GREEDY and you can thank LBJ for that. He's the one who blueprinted open thievery of the community chest through means of war and civil unrest.

Stop thinking of one as conservative and the other as liberal because those lines only exist in theory.

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