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Old 01-07-2011, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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As soon as this is solely about homosexuality, you'll be right.

But until then, reading comprehension is in order.
I'm just including gays in this, because that is what drives this type of "gender neutral" crap.

From the article "Gay rights groups are applauding the decision." Nuff said.

Maybe it is you who has reading comprehension problems.
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I'm not seeing how this is losing ANYTHING.

It's just a passport.

It's not like we're all being forced to being referred to as parent 1/parent 2 instead of mom/dad in every single case.

This is just an idiotic thing to get upset about.
Yeah..folks should wait until the 20th form to be changed to get upset ?
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:43 PM
 
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Please explain how changing "Mother" and "Father" to "Parent 1" and "Parent 2" does NOT remove the gender variable?
parent is interchangeable with both a father and a mother. a parent can be of either sex. seems like a very silly thing to worry about having to say parent and not mom, you are a parent period
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Yeah..folks should wait until the 20th form to be changed to get upset ?

All government forms that include parentage should have similar nomenclature.

It's easier, and includes everything.

However, it in no way denigrates anyone's position as a "mother" "father" "step father" "guardian" or anything.
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Just cross the words out and put back in Mother and Father.
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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All government forms that include parentage should have similar nomenclature.

It's easier, and includes everything.

However, it in no way denigrates anyone's position as a "mother" "father" "step father" "guardian" or anything.
True..we all just become genderless entities.
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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And meanwhile every other government form is produced in at least two languages.
Five+ documents needing to be printed in two+ languages versus one document in two+ languages. I wonder which is more efficient. At least it's a step, no?

Perhaps all forms should be printed in the universal language of Esperanto. That way: One form. One language.

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I have a cousin that is a lesbian and has a partner that she has been with for years and even she said this is stupid.
So your lesbian cousin is perfectly fine with the fact that previously, she or her partner would had to have been listed as a "father" or flat out omitted from being on her child's passport?

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Point is that it is a step in that direction. A step toward it somehow being wrong to call someone a female "name" (mother) or a male "name" (father).
Actually, it's a step in the direction of "All family units are welcome".
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Point is that it is a step in that direction. A step toward it somehow being wrong to call someone a female "name" (mother) or a male "name" (father).
No, it's not.

That's what people who like to sensationalize minor issues like this may believe, but all this is is a government agency coming up with an efficient way to cover all the parenting variables.

Not making it wrong to call someone a mom or dad.
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:50 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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It's trickle down from the marriage application in California.

Party A, and Party B.... It's so stupid. The words Male and Female, He and She, His and Hers, offends some people so much they go to the far degree of banishing gender specific terms.

If it offends 10,000 people out of 310,000,000 it's time to get rid of it because it's Offensive to a select few.

Pathetic.

Just another thing "sanitized for your protection" from the government.
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Old 01-07-2011, 06:51 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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So your lesbian cousin is perfectly fine with the fact that previously, she or her partner would had to have been listed as a "father" or flat out omitted from being on her child's passport?
The parents name doesn't appear anywhere on a United States Passport.

The application, yes, but not the actual document.
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