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Old 01-11-2011, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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LOL....but this was AFTER Columbine....AFTER the VT shooting....

Why are you defending the Sheriff?
Who said I was, other than you?

 
Old 01-11-2011, 01:46 PM
 
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That happened with the Columbine shooters, too. It's easy to "Monday Morning Quarterback".
But the Coumbine authorities didn't run to every available microphone and blame the opposing political party and its media for the killings...
 
Old 01-11-2011, 01:47 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Who said I was, other than you?
Then why did you post this:

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That happened with the Columbine shooters, too. It's easy to "Monday Morning Quarterback".
Unless it was your Doppleganger....
 
Old 01-11-2011, 01:47 PM
 
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Then, perhaps, as a law enforcement officer, Sheriff Dupnik should have taken the Columbine incident as a lessons learned in law enforcement and taken this young man's threats more serious. At best, it shows very poor judgement; at worst, it shows culpability.
agreed...
 
Old 01-11-2011, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Then why did you post this:



Unless it was your Doppleganger....
It wasn't the same sherrif. I'm fed up with your personal attacks, oz.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 02:07 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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It wasn't the same sherrif. I'm fed up with your personal attacks, oz.
You wrote it is easy to 'Monday morning quarterback' when we were discussing the Pima Sheriff...
 
Old 01-11-2011, 02:08 PM
 
Location: FL
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Didn't say there were no records...

What I said was that at the least the sheriff and his staff were made aware of previous incidents, but, essentially, blew them off

Sheriff Dupnik Misfires - WSJ.com
Interesting because here if you make a threat that you will harm yourself or others you will get put in a mental health facility so they can evaluate you. Here it is called the Baker Act and I would think that other states have the same type of thing.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 02:14 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Interesting because here if you make a threat that you will harm yourself or others you will get put in a mental health facility so they can evaluate you. Here it is called the Baker Act and I would think that other states have the same type of thing.
I believe that death threats are investigated normally,for some reason it appears the threats from Loughner weren't.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 02:17 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Then, perhaps, as a law enforcement officer, Sheriff Dupnik should have taken the Columbine incident as a lessons learned in law enforcement and taken this young man's threats more serious. At best, it shows very poor judgement; at worst, it shows culpability.
At this point in time the general public doesn't know what was or was not done regarding taking this guy's threads seriously. We don't know if he was ever evaluated by a mental health professional. We don't know if the sheriff ever talked to his parents about his behavior. We don't know if his parents took any warning sights seriously, or if they assured the sheriff that they would find him professional help, or not. We DO know that if every person who every posted something scary or threatening on the internet were arrested, the public outcry would not be on the side of law enforcement.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 02:18 PM
 
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So the answer is....no???

He wasn't receiving treatment from the state making this entire topic moot.
WHY wasn't he receiving treatment is the topic. So, no, not moot.
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