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Old 01-11-2011, 09:49 AM
 
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The brain doesn't stop developing until into your 20's....mind altering substances(of almost any sort) could cause problems to surface.
Every individual is different. Hence personal responsibility, right?

Where is the evidence that cannabis causes brain damage?


Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power.

P. J. O'Rourke
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Old 01-11-2011, 09:50 AM
 
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I think what is being missed by y'all is this...

Pot is to blame as much as the gun,divisive political discourse,violent music lyrics and Sarah Palin....
Only if you just assume all of those factors have equal weight.

But that would be stupid.
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Old 01-11-2011, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Orlando
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to answer the OP quickly, No. But there are many a schizy that are ticking time bombs, like the one that exploded in Tuscon.
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Old 01-11-2011, 09:57 AM
 
Location: NC
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Try reading the thread....I am not your mother,I don't hold your hand or spoonfeed you.
I did I read both of your links a******, your 600% figure is straight up not there.
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I think what is being missed by y'all is this...

Pot is to blame as much as the gun,divisive political discourse,violent music lyrics and Sarah Palin....
Guns in the hands of people with a history of mental illness like this guy should be stopped. For the last 7 years people have been flagging this guy as a problem, this could have been prevented.

But you're right, I don't blame responsible gun owners, pot heads, violent music or the political discourse for his actions. I do try and find sensible ways to try and prevent this kind of thing from happening, although thats really impossible.

The thing that 99.9% of all of the blame rests upon is the gunman himself, no ifs, ands, or buts about it.
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:16 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The AZ man who went on a murderous shooting spree in Tucson, AZ was a marijuana user.

The link to cannibis and schizophrenia and/or schizophrenic like symptoms is well documented.

So, why are people rushing to blame "the gun" this murderer used instead of the marijuana that likely contributed to his psychotic mindset be it that specific day or as a user over a number of years?

Are Marijuana and Schizophrenia Linked?
Nice attempt at doctoring the article to what you want it to say.

You allege "The link to cannibis and schizophrenia and/or schizophrenic like symptoms is well documented" when the article clearly states "but a link exists between marijuana use in some people and schizophrenic-like symptoms.

Just what scientific method did you use to equate a"well documented link to schizophrenia" and a "link to schizophrenic symptoms in some people" ?

Those are two vastly different statements.
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:18 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Only if you just assume all of those factors have equal weight.

But that would be stupid.
But it seems more weight is being given by political hacks to divisive speech and maps than to anything else....

If the guy is Schizophrenic,then his use of drugs should be looked into...correct?
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:20 AM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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I'd consider anyone that alters their state of consiousness a ticking bomb.
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:21 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I did I read both of your links a******, your 600% figure is straight up not there.
Yeah....actually it is...

Hang on,let me get my spoon....Post#77....

Marijuana, Cannabis and Schizophrenia - Schizophrenia.com

Need a bib?

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Old 01-11-2011, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The AZ man who went on a murderous shooting spree in Tucson, AZ was a marijuana user.

The link to cannibis and schizophrenia and/or schizophrenic like symptoms is well documented.

So, why are people rushing to blame "the gun" this murderer used instead of the marijuana that likely contributed to his psychotic mindset be it that specific day or as a user over a number of years?

Are Marijuana and Schizophrenia Linked?

it was not the 'guns' fault

and

it was not hemps fault

the fault lies in liberal policies of "we can keep you out in society' psycriatrics instead of institutionalizing the mentally ill

this guy was nuts, and should have been spotted by our society to put him away long ago
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