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Old 01-11-2011, 05:12 AM
 
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A bit ironic and hypocritical of all these lefties being so quick to blame Palin and Conservatives and assume this psycho murdered because of politics and "rhetoric". Many of those who are blaming others have plenty of hateful rhetoric of their own. And most or all of them never tried to blame the left fort the acts of environmentalists or others who have committed violent or destructive crimes.
And none of them said peep when Obama made his knife/gun comment in 2008. None of them said peep when SEIU punks beat up a man last year.

 
Old 01-11-2011, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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The left has been calling for this for quite a while. Even Rep Giffords has done that, she is a Dem, but certainly not far left. There have been a few Repubs politicians calling for it as well. However, the right media, has not. The left media, has only just begun. The reason the the media resists doing it, is money. There is profit in inflaming, and we know who the Kings of that are, but they are not the only ones profiting..
Money and power are always factors - of course. In this particular case, the left media immediately, and without evidence, absolutely slammed the right. In a way, I cannot blame the right media for showing this hypocrisy. Mayhap that doesn't make me perfect, but I have never claimed to be so.

It will calm down soon enough, but to say that the political discussions are so much worse now than any other time in history is simply not true. Politics has always been a hot topic that invites vigirous and sometimes passionate debate. It will continue to do so but I do not think, even for a moment, that the political debates caused this tragedy.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 05:15 AM
 
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But you still have the right to do so and should not infringe upon those that chose to carry. Freedom isn't the easiest thing, after all.

Please show me where I said otherwise.
I was commenting on the moronic comment that we should all be armed.

 
Old 01-11-2011, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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Please show me where I said otherwise.
I was commenting on the moronic comment that we should all be armed.

Was not insinuating that you did say this but rather if you did chose to be armed, you had the right to do so. Not an attack, just a comment on how I personally think it's a great thing we have the freedom in this country to make that decision or not.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Money and power are always factors - of course. In this particular case, the left media immediately, and without evidence, absolutely slammed the right. In a way, I cannot blame the right media for showing this hypocrisy. Mayhap that doesn't make me perfect, but I have never claimed to be so.

It will calm down soon enough, but to say that the political discussions are so much worse now than any other time in history is simply not true. Politics has always been a hot topic that invites vigirous and sometimes passionate debate. It will continue to do so but I do not think, even for a moment, that the political debates caused this tragedy.
You miss what the left is doing. They are, for the most part, stating the obvious. Even Beck agrees, the violent rhetoric has to stop. Certainly there are some on the left, politicizing the this. The left jumped on it immediately because they recognize, let restate, they are willing to recognize there is danger in it, and they themselves have some culpability. Thus far, t6he right media pundits are still resisting doing that.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 05:22 AM
 
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The failure of anyone in the right-wing media to accept the call to tone it down shows an astonishing lack of maturity----it exposes these bottom feeders as no more than gutter-snipes with microphones. Their defensiveness is downright creepy.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 05:26 AM
 
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The failure of anyone in the right-wing media to accept the call to tone it down shows an astonishing lack of maturity----it exposes these bottom feeders as no more than gutter-snipes with microphones. Their defensiveness is downright creepy.
And the attempts of the left-wing media to try and put the blame on anyone

right of center is morally repugnant and shows they are engaging in the

very hateful rhetoric that they claim to find reprehensible.
Talk about creepy. And hypocritical.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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You miss what the left is doing. They are, for the most part, stating the obvious. Even Beck agrees, the violent rhetoric has to stop. Certainly there are some on the left, politicizing the this. The left jumped on it immediately because they recognize, let restate, they are willing to recognize there is danger in it, and they themselves have some culpability. Thus far, t6he right media pundits are still resisting doing that.
I've never been a fan of violent rhetoric. Personally, I think Sharon Angle's comments on 2nd amendment solutions were horrible, always did. I guess I haven't been watching the right shows to see the right media pundits resisting this. I personally thought, when listening, that they agreed but felt some of the rhetoric that is being tagged as "violent" by the left is not actually violent.

The infamous Palin map, for example, actually used quite common political language, when saying that districts were targeted. It has been used by many candidates, left and right, for a number of years. Is it unfortunate that one of those districts was indeed Rep Giffords? Yes, absolutely. All of the gun metaphors used by Palin are a bit overdone and I think that was her "schtick". I saw other candidates using this same bit as well but I do believe she was the most public to use the gun metaphors.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 05:31 AM
 
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And the attempts of the left-wing media to try and put the blame on anyone

right of center is morally repugnant and shows they are engaging in the

very hateful rhetoric that they claim to find reprehensible.
Talk about creepy. And hypocritical.
I rest my case.
 
Old 01-11-2011, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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The failure of anyone in the right-wing media to accept the call to tone it down shows an astonishing lack of maturity----it exposes these bottom feeders as no more than gutter-snipes with microphones. Their defensiveness is downright creepy.
You do realize that you have used "bottom feeders", "gutter-snipes", and "creepy" in one sentence to make the point of how we should tone down the rhetoric?
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