ACORN Executive Gets "Sent To Her Room" For Voter Fraud Conspiracy

[saganista]

Originally Posted by steven_h

O'Keefe's methods, shady as they may be, uncovered some disturbing and illegal activity going on inside ACORN. Would you concede this point?

Certainly not, and neither did ANY of the prosecutors to whom O'Keefe's materials were forwarded. They claimed that there was no evidence of any criminal activity by ACORN, but that there was ample evidence of O'Keefe's having edited the tapes to suit his agenda. In other words, this was evidence deliberately doctored as part of a hit-job undertaken by a guy who happened to have a thousand dollars worth of video-editing equipment that was then used successfully by the national Republican Party to destroy a public interest group that happened to work against Republican interests. You and a lot of other people have simply fallen gullibly for one gigantic and anti-democratic hoax. Nice going.

[saganista]

Originally Posted by WilliamSmyth

Voter registration issues are not voter fraud. Any group registering voters is likely to submit invalid registrations. Many of the invalid voter registrations submitted by ACORN were flagged as suspicious by ACORN itself prior to submitting them to the State registrars. Should ACORN just have thrown them away?

There is much public confusion between voter fraud and registration fraud, all of it of course carefully curried and nurtured by Republicans.

In most jurisdictions, voter registration drives are required to turn in ALL cards submitted to them. Many places have long had such rules. More joined after reports in 2000 and 2002 from PA and several western states that some drives were simply pitching any card on which a voter requested to be registered as other than the party favored by drive sponsors.

These Submit-All rules cover even cards filled out for "Mickey Mouse" or other obviously phony names. ACORN staff rotuinely try to contact individuals named on the cards they receive from canvassers to verify their existence and proper information. ACORN typically batches cards that they find suspect into separate bundles. When you here some Republican registrar announcing that the first two hundred ACORN cards they looked at were all phony, it is because he or she deliberately looked at the phony bundle first.

And it helps to remember also that ACORN doesn't register anyone at all. It merely collects cards and forwards them to the people who do -- local voting registrars. No one named "Mickey Mouse" has ever actually been registered to vote. No one claiming to be "Mickey Mouse" has ever showed up at the polls on Election Day and tried to vote under that name. Republican claims that ACORN registration drives are subverting democracy are one big load of crap.

[saganista]

Originally Posted by LauraC

What difference does it make? She was found guilty but her jail time was suspended and she's apparently not a first time offender for similar activities.

Correction: Ms. Busefink was not found guilty of anything. She has no criminal record and allegations of a shady past are pure slander based only on the fact that, prior to joining ACORN, she had worked for a liberal grass-roots organization in Florida. That's enough to comprise a shady past for right-wing propagandists. You've simply bought into their lies.

[saganista]

Originally Posted by Darkatt

Well, if your a Black Panther wearing a uniform carrying a stick, performing voter suppression, the answer is still the same, it's approved of depending what your party affiliation is.

Off-topic, but the guy with the baton was quite properly removed. Not because he was intimidating anyone, but because carrying that sort of weapon near a polling place is against the law. The other guy not only lived in the building, but he was a credentialed poll-watcher. he had every right to be where he was. He also had every right to be a black person and to wear dark clothing and sunglasses if he chose to do so. The latter is what actually scares so many right-wingers. But take a look at the video and see how "intimidated" the chic on her cellphone is. Not to mention the elderly one who shuffles through the scene in obvious "terror". What right-wimgers for obvious reasons fail to understand is that in predominantly black neighborhoods, the sight of a young black man in dark clothing is not intimidating. It is normal.