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Old 01-12-2011, 03:34 PM
 
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Instead of arguing over whose rhetoric is worse, or who said what, why don't people just take a deep breath, and as a mark of respect for Giffords, start to edit what they say? Giffords was asking her colleagues to tone down their rhetoric before this past weekend. She has been horribly wounded and is facing a long and difficult recovery. We should all, as a matter of respect, take what she said BEFORE these events, and recognize that the rhetoric has become excessive, and try to tone it down. Not for partisan reasons, but because we're all just people, and we need to get along.

 
Old 01-12-2011, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Instead of arguing over whose rhetoric is worse, or who said what, why don't people just take a deep breath, and as a mark of respect for Giffords, start to edit what they say? Giffords was asking her colleagues to tone down their rhetoric before this past weekend. She has been horribly wounded and is facing a long and difficult recovery. We should all, as a matter of respect, take what she said BEFORE these events, and recognize that the rhetoric has become excessive, and try to tone it down. Not for partisan reasons, but because we're all just people, and we need to get along.

Because the rhetoric had nothing to do with this shooting.

Now, if you are asking why people don't act classier and just stop spewing this vile language about, that's a different question.
 
Old 01-12-2011, 03:40 PM
 
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Because the rhetoric had nothing to do with this shooting.

Now, if you are asking why people don't act classier and just stop spewing this vile language about, that's a different question.
I never said the rhetoric had anything to do with the shooting.

But I think that acting classier and stopping the vile language was something that Giffords was advocating BEFORE she was shot down, and my post was about honoring those efforts, not just because she is the victim here, but because it's the right thing to do.
 
Old 01-12-2011, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Be more specific. Exactly what do you want toned down. Give us some examples.

See, I think people are completely justified in their anger about the government and all they have done to the people, against their will, shoving unpopular legislation down our throats, taking over private industry and doing it all in a most despicable fashion.

That anger was vented in the last election as it should be.
 
Old 01-12-2011, 03:42 PM
 
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Instead of arguing over whose rhetoric is worse, or who said what, why don't people just take a deep breath, and as a mark of respect for Giffords, start to edit what they say? Giffords was asking her colleagues to tone down their rhetoric before this past weekend. She has been horribly wounded and is facing a long and difficult recovery. We should all, as a matter of respect, take what she said BEFORE these events, and recognize that the rhetoric has become excessive, and try to tone it down. Not for partisan reasons, but because we're all just people, and we need to get along.
Exactly!! I can't believe how many of these "rhetoric threads" that keep popping up. But it's just a symptom of how polarized the discourse had become.
 
Old 01-12-2011, 03:44 PM
 
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So you want to argue over what rhetoric should not be talked about----starting another rhetoric fight.

My head hurts.

Answering sanrene's post, not the OP,
 
Old 01-12-2011, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Instead of arguing over whose rhetoric is worse, or who said what, why don't people just take a deep breath, and as a mark of respect for Giffords, start to edit what they say? Giffords was asking her colleagues to tone down their rhetoric before this past weekend. She has been horribly wounded and is facing a long and difficult recovery. We should all, as a matter of respect, take what she said BEFORE these events, and recognize that the rhetoric has become excessive, and try to tone it down. Not for partisan reasons, but because we're all just people, and we need to get along.
Because some prominent figures apparently don't know how to get a cognitive thought across verbally without using metaphors that could be misconstrued as an excuse for violence.

 
Old 01-12-2011, 03:46 PM
 
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Be more specific. Exactly what do you want toned down. Give us some examples.
I'd like people to think about what they are saying about their political opponents, and how insulting some of those generalizations are. I'd like people to pause when they feel they've been insulted, to think if there is a context in that other poster's comments that might explain what's been said. I'd like people to stop bickering, and start communicating. Both on this forum and on a political level.
 
Old 01-12-2011, 03:47 PM
 
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You're expecting Americans to transform and give up one of America's most precious virtues?
 
Old 01-12-2011, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Seriously, this happens everytime there is a killing.

When Hasan killed those people at Fort Hood, here was the rhetoric.

Some Republicans "See, a violent Muslim, he did this because of Islam."

Some Democrats "No, he was a whack job, just killed people for the pleasure."

Now the roles are reversed. Some Democrats are saying that he killed because of the violent political rhetoric, and conservatives are saying that he was a whack job and he would have done it regardless.

Its a shame how these things get politicized.
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