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Old 01-21-2011, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The majority of subsidies go to the large corporate farms who can afford to lobby Congress to get them. It is just another form of corporate welfare. The small family farms get little or no help from the govenment.
The best the small ones can hope for is a partial grant and that's only after mountains of paperwork are filled out.

And this would be for fencing assistance for an individual farmer or for machinery that would be shared in the community among several farmers who pay rental fees for it back to the Extension Agency.

The above are two examples that I personally know of.
The fencing took 18 months and they got 60% help and I think the machinery took more than 1 year.
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Old 01-21-2011, 04:58 PM
 
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It's nothing but republican welfare to get the poor/rural vote.
Don't you ever get tired of these silly insults?

[LEFT]Democrats controlled BOTH house from 1955 until 1980 (26 years).
From 1981 until 1987 the Republicans controlled the Senate and the Democrats the House.
Democrats recaptured both houses in 87 and held them until 95 when the Republicans took both houses and held them until 2005.




Read more: Answers.com - What years did democrats control both house and senate


You think just maybe THEY might have had something to do with farm subsidies?[/LEFT]
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Old 01-21-2011, 05:41 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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So does that mean you're in favor of cutting subsidies, or just looking to pass the buck here (as usual)?

And BTW, what's the excuse gonna be this time, now that those "Champeens of Thrift" control at least the House and a pretty close margin in the Senate? Especially since they're obviously not working on providing jobs for the middle class, at least with the same "enthusiasm" they pushed thru those generous tax cuts for their wealthy patrons...?!
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Old 01-26-2011, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Between Heaven And Hell.
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Because you want them to still be there when you need them.
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Old 01-26-2011, 02:43 PM
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EWG Farm Subsidy Database
I was suprised to see how many people I knew were "Farmers" I wonder whats stopping me from buying cheap tillable land fencing it , and collecting a soybean subsidy on it.
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Old 01-29-2011, 10:39 PM
 
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"subsidies on some foods to keep down the cost of living, especially in urban areas"

Subsidy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The REAL reason for FARM SUBSIDIES is to support LIBERAL cities...


If you live or have lived in a big city.. you will understand that 99.9% of the people you encounter in the city do NOT produce any food.


Without subsidies to rural farmers (a majority of them which are NOT liberals), the smaller the populations the cities would have. Therefore, the REAL REASON for farm subsidies is to HELP liberal city dwellers and NOT the actual farmers themselves.
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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I've never understood why the influence which agriculture-based entities have in DC (yeah ADM, that means you) is so abnormally large cconsidering that the US hasn't been a farm-centric nation in decades, as well as the obscene subsidies (ethanol being the latest and the most idiotic one ever) those organizations get from our clueless pols in DC.
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:53 AM
 
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Sorry all: I am responding to the OP's first post and first post only. Other posts after post #1 have not been read by me so I apologize if the below has already been stated:

Farms are subsidized to protect the fat bottom lines of the wildly popular fast food industry. Most fast food chains are on the stock market and their investors expect gains, not losses.
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Old 01-30-2011, 07:08 PM
 
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Farms are subsidized to protect the fat bottom lines of the wildly popular fast food industry. Most fast food chains are on the stock market and their investors expect gains, not losses.

That is semi-correct and fits in with my conclusion (refer to my post 2 above yours).
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Old 01-30-2011, 07:29 PM
 
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That is semi-correct and fits in with my conclusion (refer to my post 2 above yours).
Interesting. Thanks.
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