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Old 01-19-2011, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Texas
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You don't get it. The speaker of the house is elected, so the party in majority controls who gets committee chairs and assignments, the flow of legislation, etc. through the speaker--it's a position of huge power. In turn, committee chairs control the flow of bills through their committee. Those positions are awarded to senior members, and are highly partisan positions--the speaker appoints loyal, long term members of his/her own party. The republicans pumped millions of dollars into tea party campaigns to make sure they could take back control of the house to push through a republican speaker and agenda. (They won't be able to push them through the Senate and Pres, because of democratic party control there, but that's another topic)

Out of 230 republicans in the house, a little over 70 are freshmen. They will not be committee chairs. The chair completely controls the movement of bills through their committee by the calendar--if they don't want something, they let it die a million different ways--by not putting it on the calender, letting it die in a subcommittee, etc. If your tea party guys don't vote the way the chair wants them to vote--guess what. Their bills somehow never make it out of committee. That's why lots of people go to statehouses bright eyed and bushy tailed, thinking they're going to fix things, until they hit a brick wall. A good chunk of the wheeling and dealing happens before a bill ever hits the floor.

Congress.org - Capitol Hill Basics

Second--your guys got in on republican money. If they fail to vote the way the republicans want them to vote, what do you think is going to happen to their campaign funds in two years? If the tea party candidates were capable of raising the millions they'd need to win a general election on their own from small contributors, they would have done it last time. Your people have a choice--tow the party line, or they lose their corporate contributors. Tow the party line, or the republicans will run someone against them in the primary that WILL do it. Again--the House only has two year terms, so fundraising is survival. If your guys don't do what they're told, they're out.

The system is corrupt for everyone by it's very nature--not just for the tea party. If you take contributors out of the picture and publicly finance campaigns, then people can run on their merits vs. who can drag in the most cash by appeasing the people with the biggest pocket books. Get the picture now?
I understand about backroom deals. I have seen examples of Tea Party candidates supplanting another repub because that repub was not conservative.
I'll ask again,
Please provide proof about the back room deals Tea Party candidates do?

I'll help. Among Congress, as far as I know, Ron Paul was the only Tea Party candidate before the current elections. The others in office have been there less than a month.

We know many people in politics are not true to their word. I'm not talking about when uninformed voters get confused on the actual issue either. Is their a chance a Tea Party candidate will go back on their word? sure people are human, which is why we are a nation of laws and not a nation of people.
When a Tea Party candidate does not vote conservative that candidate needs to go.
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:41 AM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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The Tea Party is obsolete.

The foot soldiers have served their purpose and the Republican party (with their big money backers....Koch brothers, Murdoch, et al) no longer have a use for that rag tag group of TPers. The Tea Party was just the lastest version of what wealthy Republicans always do....they get poor Whites all riled up over "fringe" issues wrapped around race. They get the poor, working class White vote....and then the "real" Republicans (aka the wealthy ones) dump the dead weight of those undesireables.
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