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Old 01-18-2011, 07:47 AM
 
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If jimmy carter is 18, it detracts from any "validity" the ranking may have suggested. Carter, by most estimates, was the worst president of the 20th century.

I wonder if anyone would care if we "ranked" the British Prime Ministers?
Actually Herbert Hoover might have the title base on his handling of the stock market crash of 1929 and the subsequent economic decline.
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:03 AM
 
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And WHY was US merchant shipping was being attacked???

Perhaps because it was supplying the UK,Germany's enemy?

Um, yeah. That's called trade. All sorts of countries trade with one belligerant or the other. And if a belligerant decides to attack a neutral trading partner, that's an act of war.

Why would it have been the USA's concern?
Aside from the humanitarian issues you wish to blithely ignore, it is certainly the concern of the U.S. if one or more powers intends to military destroy American markets.
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:06 AM
 
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Actually Herbert Hoover might have the title base on his handling of the stock market crash of 1929 and the subsequent economic decline.
And almost every rating of Presidents has Buchanan and Harding fighting for the bottom stop -- the latter served in the 20th Century of course. Then there's Nixon...
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:06 AM
 
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Aside from the humanitarian issues you wish to blithely ignore, it is certainly the concern of the U.S. if one or more powers intends to military destroy American markets.
The USA was trading with the enemy of Germany,shipping war materials to the UK.
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:09 AM
 
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And almost every rating of Presidents has Buchanan and Harding fighting for the bottom stop -- the latter served in the 20th Century of course. Then there's Nixon...
actually nixon did a good job as potus..the problem with him is he was a paraniod nut
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:15 AM
 
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And almost every rating of Presidents has Buchanan and Harding fighting for the bottom stop -- the latter served in the 20th Century of course. Then there's Nixon...
Which is kinda funny since the economy did well under Harding. When he was president we came out of a horrible depression under a very short time because of his policies.
The Tea Pot Dome scandal did alot of damage to the "image" of his presidency. It had little effect on the economy.
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:25 AM
 
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The USA was trading with the enemy of Germany, shipping war materials to the UK.
Yes.

And the entire history of the Cold War featured both the U.S. and the USSR trading with various enemies of each other. And you didn't see either country declaring war on the other and ravaging their merchant shipping in response, did you?

Germany declared war on the United States and attacked U.S. interests. This warranted war with Germany, no matter how much you want to defend the Third Reich.
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:30 AM
 
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Yes.

And the entire history of the Cold War featured both the U.S. and the USSR trading with various enemies of each other. And you didn't see either country declaring war on the other and ravaging their merchant shipping in response, did you?
The Cold war was just that,cold.
The UK did the same to nations trading with Germany.


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Germany declared war on the United States and attacked U.S. interests. This warranted war with Germany, no matter how much you want to defend the Third Reich.
If US shipping is being used to transfer war materials to the UK,the USA was in effect,aiding Germany's enemy.

We won't even mention the attacks on German military vessels by US forces PRIOR to the declaration of hostilities between the two nations.
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:31 AM
 
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Which is kinda funny since the economy did well under Harding. When he was president we came out of a horrible depression under a very short time because of his policies.
The Tea Pot Dome scandal did alot of damage to the "image" of his presidency. It had little effect on the economy.
Not surprisingly, historical rankings of Presidents are not solely limited to the question: How did the economy do?
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Old 01-18-2011, 08:35 AM
 
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The Cold war was just that,cold.
The UK did the same to nations trading with Germany.

If US shipping is being used to transfer war materials to the UK,the USA was in effect,aiding Germany's enemy.

We won't even mention the attacks on German military vessels by US forces PRIOR to the declaration of hostilities between the two nations.
Try reading what I wrote.

The wars in Korea, Vietnam and Afghanistan were not cold. The USSR traded with North Korea, China, and North Vietnam. The United States traded with Afghan rebels. Once again, since you missed it the first time, both countries traded with their enemies. Neither declared war on the other or started sinking ships at sea.

You mean like the German sinking of the destroyer USS Reuben James?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Reuben_James_(DD-245)
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