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Old 01-19-2011, 12:32 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The thing is expensive, but worth it in my opinion. I applaud their effort to cut out unnecessary red tape.

France's system is ranked as very good quite often, and it is a mixture of public and private funding.
I doubt it. The American system they want to introduce isn't the same as ours.
I have to wonder about the efficiency in the US one.
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Old 01-19-2011, 01:34 AM
 
Location: Where ocean meets up with the naked land.
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Why do people persist that the United States offers the best healthcare? Obviously not!
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Old 01-19-2011, 02:15 AM
 
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The conservative goverment in the UK does not believe in the NHS on ideological grounds, and will do everything they can to dismantle it. The last time they were in goverment they underfunded the system to the point were it almost collapsed. It seems like they're up to their old tricks again. After the student fee fiasco they've no hope of winning the next election.
All of this.
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Old 01-19-2011, 03:42 AM
 
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I have to wonder about the efficiency in the US one.
Low, by any measure. Twice as much reasorces spent for D+ results. Without covering everyone.

That is the worst efficiency in the first world. And that is without considering such things as the economic and social costs of employer-shouldered health care, medical bankrupcies, and a more unhealthy population.
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:50 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Who here considers the NHS to be a good system?

Are there any issues/problems with the NHS?

What could be done to alleviate these problems?
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The US system provides the greatest private sector profits of any of the world's heal provision systems. This is why it is so difficult to reduce costs. Profits trump patients just like they do in our military supply system.

A government operated system that eliminated the private insurance and placed controls on health care management systems (million dollars per year hospital administrative salaries are absurd) would provide better care for more people at less cost to everyone.
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Old 01-19-2011, 06:59 AM
 
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Who here considers the NHS to be a good system?

Are there any issues/problems with the NHS?

What could be done to alleviate these problems?
I'm in favour of it, and I'm in favour of the theory behind it.
Problems are things like waiting lists and times to get an appointment. With a system like ours, much depends on the allocation of the budget given to fund the system. Start cutting the budget and the system obviously suffers.

The most obvious benefit is that I don't pay health insurance as it is funded by taxes.

I don't know if this is a pro or a con, but in America I notice there is so much advertising for medicines and health treatments, especially on television. We don't get that so much.

The NHS ensures that everyone has access to healthcare, but doesn't stop you from going private if you can afford to.

Someone who works in the system could probably give you a more detailed answer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History...Health_Service

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7462013.stm
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:07 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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My MIL uses what would be somewhat like the NHS here,it is called Medicare.
Probably the only difference is you still pay some of the cost but it is very little.

She is currently going through a long drawn out procedure,where every test is run and every other thing looked at before they will diagnose her as having early Alzheimers....and it has taken months.

Problem to me is,the quicker you can get someone on the drugs to slow down Alzheimers the better....and that isn't happening.

I have a sneaking suspicion if she had private insurance things would have moved much faster.

I am not opposed to a UHC system really,my problem with it is it is being seen as some great solution to all the problems here and of course it is not...

Part of the problem is always going to be funding,and it will always keep going up as populations age.

One solution is to of course ration care in some way,either through outright denial of service or the more likely method,waiting periods....

If you make a patient wait long enough they might just die,thereby not needing the expensive care.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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As far as appointments time are concerned it takes me at least two weeks or more to schedule a vist with my Doctor. Long waiting times are not just associated with public health care or insurance.
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Old 01-19-2011, 07:29 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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As far as appointments time are concerned it takes me at least two weeks or more to schedule a vist with my Doctor. Long waiting times are not just associated with public health care or insurance.
Private insurance?
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