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Old 01-19-2011, 08:45 AM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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I've just received excellent care for a broken ankle. I had minimal waiting in A&E multiple x-rays and quick referal to the orthopedic specialist, i can also see my GP within an hour or two of phoning. Now the service could be better- dentistry sucks (i can't see an endodontist on the NHS for example) and european style market reforms could help, but overall the system works rather well. I'd hate to only have a US style system here.
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:50 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I've just received excellent care for a broken ankle. I had minimal waiting in A&E multiple x-rays and quick referal to the orthopedic specialist, i can also see my GP within an hour or two of phoning. Now the service could be better- dentistry sucks (i can't see an endodontist on the NHS for example) and european style market reforms could help, but overall the system works rather well. I'd hate to only have a US style system here.
How much does the NHS cost each person?
I know it is funded through your taxes but how mush would it come to for a year?

Any idea?

Australia seems to have a pretty good system going from the experiences of my mother,although equipment available seems less than here...
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Old 01-19-2011, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Why do people persist that the United States offers the best healthcare? Obviously not!
Then why do very rich people from other countries come here for surgery when they could go anywhere?
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:08 AM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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Per head of population the last time i looked we were spending around £1400 per person per year. Thats alot less than the US. My income taxes are around 27% of earnings, it fluctuates because i'm self employed.
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:10 AM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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America has the best medical tech in the world no doubt, but your funding model sucks.
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:15 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Per head of population the last time i looked we were spending around £1400 per person per year. Thats alot less than the US. My income taxes are around 27% of earnings, it fluctuates because i'm self employed.
That is $2200/year,last time we had insurance through my work it was (I think) $2000/year for the two of us.
There was a deductible and most was of course paid for by the employer.
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:23 AM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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I've just worked it out- £1600 per head / $2400 us. The us was spending $7500 per head last time I looked 3 years ago. I spend around 6% of my income on national insurance which covers healthcare.
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:29 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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I've just worked it out- £1600 per head / $2400 us. The us was spending $7500 per head last time I looked 3 years ago. I spend around 6% of my income on national insurance which covers healthcare.
The thing is,HERE it depends upon who you work for,a larger company the insurance cost is less....

When we had insurance through the company my wife worked at,it was $80/week for both of us I believe,again with deductibles and restrictions.

Now if you had to buy insurance just for yourself it would be much higher,but then insurance was kind of a perk of working for a company.
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:40 AM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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Well i'm self employed, plus i have pre existing - i doubt i'd even get insurance.
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Old 01-19-2011, 09:41 AM
 
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The thing is,HERE it depends upon who you work for,a larger company the insurance cost is less....

When we had insurance through the company my wife worked at,it was $80/week for both of us I believe,again with deductibles and restrictions.

Now if you had to buy insurance just for yourself it would be much higher,but then insurance was kind of a perk of working for a company.
There are two different things here. One is the cost to the employee and the other is the overall cost.

The company I retired from but where I am still insured is a good example as they self insured (they are big enough). I pay $200/month for excellent insurance. But the actual cost to the company is around $600/month or $7200/year.

In the UK, the NHS provides a base level of care for everyone. It is a good system but not a great system. But it is very good value for money in terms of the overall outcome it delivers. In comparison to the US, it provides an equivalent level of public health across the population. Not better but not worse either.

However, also in the UK, there is a parallel private system which integrates with the NHS and which uses many of the same doctors. You access this by buying "top-up" insurance such as BUPA and which is often provided as a perk by employers (the French do the same thing). Having this insurance allows you to avoid some of the weaknesses of the NHS. Interestingly, even with top-up insurance, it still works out cheaper than the US in terms of overall cost.

The big question for me is why our system is so expensive compared to other systems which provide similar outcomes.
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