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I think true climate change is responsible here. I'm glad they acknowledge that they do not know it all nor do they have all of the answers and didn't claim this is settled science.
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Such a superstorm is hypothetical but not improbable, climate researchers warn. "We think this event happens once every 100 or 200 years or so,
Scientists warn California could be struck by winter ‘superstorm’ - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110117/us_yblog_thelookout/scientists-warn-california-could-be-struck-by-winter-superstorm - broken link)
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The risk is gathering momentum now, scientists say, due to rising temperatures in the atmosphere, which has generally made weather patterns more volatile.
You mean they were right?
Who was it that predicted California would slide off into the Pacific.
GOD must not be happy with California.
If God truly wanted to help us, he would only sink San Francisco into the ocean and wipe out Santa Cruz. San Francisco and their totally inane, off the left wing charts of socialism, would not be missed by the masses. Sink it and start all over again, with reasonable politics.
This isn't anything new. There are many areas referred to as 100 year flood areas or long term occurrence disaster zones. This is simply a modeling program they are using to attempt to gauge future possible scenarios. While it is guaranteed that eventually another past disaster is likely to occur in the future, there is no certainty in the predictions and their use outside of emergency planning is pointless.
In 1969 southern California experienced a fifty year rainfall. My parents and I had just moved to Huntington Beach, a quarter mile from the surf. The whole area, from mid Orange county down, is on a huge sloup towards the ocean as way back when it was a large bog during the winter as the Santa Ana river whould flood. Before the river was dammed up, in the mountains above OC, it flooded regularly where millions of people lived now.
It rained first in late Septermber. Every day. Then EVERY single day during November, December amd most of February. Its still didn't quit raining into March. I ruined several pairs of boots and discovered it was socks, then plastic bags over socks then boots...
The area where we lived was at sea level with cliffs on either side, one part of Huntington Beach and the other Costa Mesa. There were three bridges up these cliffs, with the river running next to the Costa Mesa side and a runoff channel for flood control on the Huntington Beach side. The HB bridge was the smallest and lowest and got closed first due to the amount of runoff from the stormdrains. The smaller one over the river itself got closed on an off through January and into February when the rain was the hardest. The largeer, taller bridge had water at an inch below. It too would close if it reached a half-inch. Normally it would already be closed but was now the only bridge.
The dam had nearly overflowed and was threatening to constantly, and could easily have been washed out in that event. They were letting out water down the already swollen river to avoid that as it would have flooded half of Orange county. Where I lived would have gotten 12 food of flood waters. We were eligible for federal flood insurance after that based on the staus of the dam and the sand fill in the runoff channels.
The scary part was that if something happened there was litterally no place to go. A flood would have started North of us. If the dam went out the river would have flooded out the bridges. I don't know if we were supposed to swim to the top of the house but at least it was two story.
This was a fifty year rain only because of the dam. Without it it would have been a hundred year rain for us. We hadn't even lived there three months when it first stated raining.
For socal, since there is usually little rain (relative to the norm other places) nothing is built for it. A third of homes flooded sounds like a safe estamiate. And like how the smattering of snow here in OK closed all the schools last week, due to little snow removal equiptment because its not needed often, there is practically no resources in socal to deal with a major flood out.
Yes, this can happen and I wouldn't be surprised it it did. Picture New Orleans times ten with less resources to rescue. People in socal don't have rowboats for getting around in floods. Practically nobody has flood insurence. Bad scene in anyone's estamation. And since it has a solid record of reoccuring in a fairly set time, it will...
Wonder if those areas where flood insurence is available will find more ois being sold or people just ignore the risk as usual.
In 1969 southern California experienced a fifty year rainfall. My parents and I had just moved to Huntington Beach, a quarter mile from the surf. The whole area, from mid Orange county down, is on a huge sloup towards the ocean as way back when it was a large bog during the winter as the Santa Ana river whould flood. Before the river was dammed up, in the mountains above OC, it flooded regularly where millions of people lived now.
It rained first in late Septermber. Every day. Then EVERY single day during November, December amd most of February. Its still didn't quit raining into March. I ruined several pairs of boots and discovered it was socks, then plastic bags over socks then boots...
The area where we lived was at sea level with cliffs on either side, one part of Huntington Beach and the other Costa Mesa. There were three bridges up these cliffs, with the river running next to the Costa Mesa side and a runoff channel for flood control on the Huntington Beach side. The HB bridge was the smallest and lowest and got closed first due to the amount of runoff from the stormdrains. The smaller one over the river itself got closed on an off through January and into February when the rain was the hardest. The largeer, taller bridge had water at an inch below. It too would close if it reached a half-inch. Normally it would already be closed but was now the only bridge.
The dam had nearly overflowed and was threatening to constantly, and could easily have been washed out in that event. They were letting out water down the already swollen river to avoid that as it would have flooded half of Orange county. Where I lived would have gotten 12 food of flood waters. We were eligible for federal flood insurance after that based on the staus of the dam and the sand fill in the runoff channels.
The scary part was that if something happened there was litterally no place to go. A flood would have started North of us. If the dam went out the river would have flooded out the bridges. I don't know if we were supposed to swim to the top of the house but at least it was two story.
This was a fifty year rain only because of the dam. Without it it would have been a hundred year rain for us. We hadn't even lived there three months when it first stated raining.
For socal, since there is usually little rain (relative to the norm other places) nothing is built for it. A third of homes flooded sounds like a safe estamiate. And like how the smattering of snow here in OK closed all the schools last week, due to little snow removal equiptment because its not needed often, there is practically no resources in socal to deal with a major flood out.
Yes, this can happen and I wouldn't be surprised it it did. Picture New Orleans times ten with less resources to rescue. People in socal don't have rowboats for getting around in floods. Practically nobody has flood insurence. Bad scene in anyone's estamation. And since it has a solid record of reoccuring in a fairly set time, it will...
Wonder if those areas where flood insurence is available will find more ois being sold or people just ignore the risk as usual.
Even before Katrina I wondered why people would choose to live below sea level and below the level of the Mississippi in New Orleans. Eventually the laws of gravity and nature win. I wonder the same about the area you just described. Doesn't sound like the smartest choice to me to choose to live in a flood zone
In 1969 southern California experienced a fifty year rainfall. My parents and I had just moved to Huntington Beach, a quarter mile from the surf. The whole area, from mid Orange county down, is on a huge sloup towards the ocean as way back when it was a large bog during the winter as the Santa Ana river whould flood. Before the river was dammed up, in the mountains above OC, it flooded regularly where millions of people lived now.
It rained first in late Septermber. Every day. Then EVERY single day during November, December amd most of February. Its still didn't quit raining into March. I ruined several pairs of boots and discovered it was socks, then plastic bags over socks then boots...
The area where we lived was at sea level with cliffs on either side, one part of Huntington Beach and the other Costa Mesa. There were three bridges up these cliffs, with the river running next to the Costa Mesa side and a runoff channel for flood control on the Huntington Beach side. The HB bridge was the smallest and lowest and got closed first due to the amount of runoff from the stormdrains. The smaller one over the river itself got closed on an off through January and into February when the rain was the hardest. The largeer, taller bridge had water at an inch below. It too would close if it reached a half-inch. Normally it would already be closed but was now the only bridge.
The dam had nearly overflowed and was threatening to constantly, and could easily have been washed out in that event. They were letting out water down the already swollen river to avoid that as it would have flooded half of Orange county. Where I lived would have gotten 12 food of flood waters. We were eligible for federal flood insurance after that based on the staus of the dam and the sand fill in the runoff channels.
The scary part was that if something happened there was litterally no place to go. A flood would have started North of us. If the dam went out the river would have flooded out the bridges. I don't know if we were supposed to swim to the top of the house but at least it was two story.
This was a fifty year rain only because of the dam. Without it it would have been a hundred year rain for us. We hadn't even lived there three months when it first stated raining.
For socal, since there is usually little rain (relative to the norm other places) nothing is built for it. A third of homes flooded sounds like a safe estamiate. And like how the smattering of snow here in OK closed all the schools last week, due to little snow removal equiptment because its not needed often, there is practically no resources in socal to deal with a major flood out.
Yes, this can happen and I wouldn't be surprised it it did. Picture New Orleans times ten with less resources to rescue. People in socal don't have rowboats for getting around in floods. Practically nobody has flood insurence. Bad scene in anyone's estamation. And since it has a solid record of reoccuring in a fairly set time, it will...
Wonder if those areas where flood insurence is available will find more ois being sold or people just ignore the risk as usual.
Yep, in many ways how and where we build can create scenarios that normally wouldn't occur and this is something that people need to be concerned with when they buy/build or move to areas with these possible scenarios, even though uncommon as they are.
As someone mentioned above, Katrina was a perfect example of a known disaster lying in wait and so there should have been extra attention to the key points to which would be in danger of lending to the seriousness of the situation. Unfortunately, those responsible for this were not interested and as a result, both the negligence of those in charge (the city and state) and that of the people who lived there for not making sure the city and state were doing what they were required to do, well... a bad situation became one of extraordinary occurrence.
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