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View Poll Results: Is sexual preferance a choice?
Yes 47 18.58%
No 193 76.28%
Not sure 11 4.35%
Yes 2 0.79%
Voters: 253. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-20-2011, 03:57 PM
 
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Really? I've never heard of a straight person becoming gay. Gays in denial that pretended to be straight maybe.
They will claim to have "always been"....but there are numerous examples of people that go into it. Or experiment for awhile. Hollywood has several examples of people that experimented in it for awhile.
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:59 PM
 
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I think over time a person can go downhill in their morality enough that they can. There is example after example of a person that is not gay their whole life but will instead start out hetero but gradually go into it.

They can, what? Start to crave same sex sex? Sorry, not buying it. Also, there is a difference between "sexual orientation" and "sex acts." One can be staright and engage in gay sex acts (porn lesbians, for example), or can be gay and engage in straight sex acts quite convincingly (Ted Haggard, et al).

Finally, you attribute a "change" or "development" of same sex attraction and orientation later in life as only occurring if there's a "lack of morality." You also seem to suggest it's a conscious choice made to develop feelings for the same (or opposite sex, if one is gay then finds later they have a taste in the opposite sex) which is complete nonsense.

There is nothing moral about sex or sex acts. The morality of sex only attaches to whom it may affect. Where there are consenting adults involved and nobody is getting hurt, what or who is being offended? Actually, the most offensive and immoral thing I can think of is to act against who you really are.
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:00 PM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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Oh and bisexuals that deny half of their attraction. They were never straight though. I'd still like to know where your attractions lie (and I mean your innate attraction, not your behaviour.)
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:01 PM
 
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They will claim to have "always been"....but there are numerous examples of people that go into it. Or experiment for awhile. Hollywood has several examples of people that experimented in it for awhile.
Experimentation is not orientation. If you stick around after experimenting, you've most likely crossed into bisexual territory.

And, among those who "experiment" for years only to "become exclusively hetero" later.... did they REALLY change their inner feelings, or did they just stop having homosexual sexual encounters? The "inner feelings" part is what counts.

If you are a duck and put on a people pants, you're still a duck. In people pants.
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:04 PM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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Hollywood types do it either for press coverage, or they are truely bisexual.

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Old 01-20-2011, 04:15 PM
 
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They can, what? Start to crave same sex sex? Sorry, not buying it. Also, there is a difference between "sexual orientation" and "sex acts." One can be staright and engage in gay sex acts (porn lesbians, for example), or can be gay and engage in straight sex acts quite convincingly (Ted Haggard, et al).
whatever.

In any event, does it REALLY matter? The act is the immoral thing...doesn't much matter whether one is tempted by it or not.
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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whatever.

In any event, does it REALLY matter? The act is the immoral thing...doesn't much matter whether one is tempted by it or not.
It is not any more immoral than hetro sex...Does it matter really? It seems to matter to you what consenting adults do in their bedrooms, although I have no idea why it should.
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:25 PM
 
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The act is the immoral thing
Why?
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:29 PM
 
Location: London, U.K.
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Coz his bible says so
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Old 01-20-2011, 04:31 PM
 
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Coz his bible says so
that's exactly it. And it trumps any humanistic morality you may come up with.

It doesn't change. Your's does.
It is absolute. Your's changes.
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