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Is that an honest question? There are numerous Old and New Testament verses that condemn it. There are also numerous verses that condemn fornication. Since any sexual activity outside of marriage is immoral, it is immoral.
Where did God say two men, or two women, can't marry each other?
Can you give me a Biblical example of such a marriage?
I'm no Bible expert. I pay it no credence whatsoever.
You're the expert. You're the one who said that homo sex is always immoral since all sex outside marriage is immoral (clearly implying that gay marriage is Biblically forbidden). Where in the Bible does God explicitly forbid gay marriage? I'm just curious.
I'm no bible expert. I pay it no credence whatsoever.
You're the expert. You're the one who said that homo sex is always immoral since all sex outside marriage is immoral (clearly implying that gay marriage is Biblically forbidden). Where in the Bible does God explicitly forbid gay marriage? I'm just curious.
God instituted marriage by creating Adam and Eve. His model of marriage was male/female. He allowed men to have multiple wives later on in NT times. But nowhere was it ever suggested that it was good for 2 women or 2 men. Homosexuality is explicitly condemned by God in numerous areas, as is adultery or fornication.
God instituted marriage by creating Adam and Eve. His model of marriage was male/female. He allowed men to have multiple wives later on in NT times. But nowhere was it ever suggested that it was good for 2 women or 2 men.
So God doesn't specifically forbid it anywhere in the Bible?
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Homosexuality is explicitly condemned by God in numerous areas
I've had many, many Christians tell me that this is just simply not the case and that people who interpret the Bible this way are misreading it.
God instituted marriage by creating Adam and Eve. His model of marriage was male/female. He allowed men to have multiple wives later on in NT times. But nowhere was it ever suggested that it was good for 2 women or 2 men. Homosexuality is explicitly condemned by God in numerous areas, as is adultery or fornication.
Interesting things about the bible and marriage.
1. The bible never says you've got to go before a priest to get married, ever.
2. The bible never puts limits on one man/one woman marriages. In reality, there are numerous cases of plural marriages in the bible.
3. Some of the bibles greatest heroes had homosexual relationships while being the "voice of God", mainly Solomon and David.
that's exactly it. And it trumps any humanistic morality you may come up with.
It doesn't change. Your's does.
It is absolute. Your's changes.
No. It does change. Or at least, man's interpretation of same changes.
For example, I doubt you read the bible in its original text. Most American protestant sects of Christianity read the KJV, commissioned by the famous bisexual, King James of England.
The bible has been used to decide when and if slavery is moral (HAS to be moral, the bible explicitly CALLS for slavery of some people), and whether or not one can eat shellfish.... wait, seafood lovers everywhere decry the "new covenant" with God... which on its face means that the bible changes and isn't absolute.
And God knows (pun intended) how many books were "left out" of the bible's official final form by the early church!
So no, Calvinist. Your bible isn't absolute. It's not infallible, and your particular strand of belief is not the only strand. You think you're right. Heck, you may KNOW in your "heart" you're right, but it doesn't mean you actually are, because most of the world does NOT subscribe to your particular sect of beliefs, meaning it is very likely you are wrong.
No. It does change. Or at least, man's interpretation of same changes.
For example, I doubt you read the bible in its original text. Most American protestant sects of Christianity read the KJV, commissioned by the famous bisexual, King James of England.
The bible has been used to decide when and if slavery is moral (HAS to be moral, the bible explicitly CALLS for slavery of some people), and whether or not one can eat shellfish.... wait, seafood lovers everywhere decry the "new covenant" with God... which on its face means that the bible changes and isn't absolute.
And God knows (pun intended) how many books were "left out" of the bible's official final form by the early church!
So no, Calvinist. Your bible isn't absolute. It's not infallible, and your particular strand of belief is not the only strand. You think you're right. Heck, you may KNOW in your "heart" you're right, but it doesn't mean you actually are, because most of the world does NOT subscribe to your particular sect of beliefs, meaning it is very likely you are wrong.
Don't forget that the Catholic bible has 3 more books in it, that the protestant version doesn't contain.
So if the bible is the word of God, why even the change between Catholic and protestant? (this was done because the angelic books lead to a view of more than one heavenly being, which protestants don't like)
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