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Well if the Governor feels that way maybe he could talk to his sister GOV here in AZ & ask her to stop sentencing those who are poor & need medical help to survive, to certain death.
Ya know since they are brother & sister maybe he will be able to compel her to get some compassion.
There should be no religion in government. If he gave this speech as part of his official duties as governor, he should have kept Jesus out of it. If he keeps this up, the good people of Alabama should initiate a recall action.
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Please quote passages from the Constitution, Declaration of Independence and a lot of other things they wrote that cite the necessity of believing in Jesus in order to be "saved."
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Ummm....the poster to whom you were responding was me. Not only did I read the post, I quoted it.
The ignorant statements in this conversation are not coming from me....
Let me see. you posted "There should be no religion in government". I reponded that our forefathers did not agree with that statement and included examples.
Then you post,"the necessity of believing in Jesus in order to be "saved".
I don't believe I ever made that statement nor was that statement made in any of the sources I quoted.
So I don't know where you got it. You are referencing a statement never given.
Just another reason why the Civil War was a grand mistake. The flakes of the South would have had their theocracy. But it's still not too late for the Confederacy to form their own country. As a Northerner I'd say good riddance!
There should be no religion in government. If he gave this speech as part of his official duties as governor, he should have kept Jesus out of it. If he keeps this up, the good people of Alabama should initiate a recall action.
Why does he have to keep religion out of his speeches?
Why does he have to keep religion out of his speeches?
He doesn't have to keep religion out of it. He just needs to avoid saying that as Governor of Alabama he feels differently about people who are Christian as opposed to people who are not. As the chief executive of the state, it's important that all citizens of the state be assured that their governor will treat them all equally. When he says he think better of Christians than non-Christians, he's casting that equality into doubt.
He doesn't have to keep religion out of it. He just needs to avoid saying that as Governor of Alabama he feels differently about people who are Christian as opposed to people who are not. As the chief executive of the state, it's important that all citizens of the state be assured that their governor will treat them all equally. When he says he think better of Christians than non-Christians, he's casting that equality into doubt.
If you're a Coca-Cola drinker, you're my brother or my sister. If you drink Pepsi, I don't hold you in the same high regard. But I'd like to. All you have to do is switch to Coke.
If you're a Christian, you're my brother or my sister. If you're non-Christian, I don't hold you in the same high regard. But I'd like to. All you have to do is convert.
Governors are elected by the people, and are supposed to represent all the people equally. As Governor, he's saying that he regards Christians differently than non-Christians. And that's inherently unequal.
Why does he have to keep religion out of his speeches?
Although personally offputting, there's no reason politicians can't talk about religion in speeches.
However, it sends a horrible message to those of different faiths when a governor says "Christians are my people, but non-Christians are not my people. However, they could be my people if they converted to Christianity". For a government to function well and serve its people, the people must have a basic trust in it. To an atheist like myself, such statements from elected officials can seem like the beginning of persecution. I was similarly put off when George H.W. Bush said this:
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God."
Although personally offputting, there's no reason politicians can't talk about religion in speeches.
However, it sends a horrible message to those of different faiths when a governor says "Christians are my people, but non-Christians are not my people. However, they could be my people if they converted to Christianity". For a government to function well and serve its people, the people must have a basic trust in it. To an atheist like myself, such statements from elected officials can seem like the beginning of persecution. I was similarly put off when George H.W. Bush said this:
"No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered as patriots. This is one nation under God."
But again if they are not doing anything unequal...Who cares.
Obama says alot of things I think are sickening and not fair but the left doesnt seem to care...So.
desert? you need to know we Floridians were never "Southerners" to begin with!
"We Floridians"? I really wish you'd stop speaking for all Floridians, my parents are Floridians and yes, they are Southern. You may speak for people in south FL, but not the rest of the state.
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